% >> I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
% TONIGHT ON "HERE AND NOW," FIRST
% UP, A LOOK AT WISCONSIN HEAT
% WARNINGS HEADING INTO THE
% WEEKEND.
% THEN A CLOSER LOOK AT WHAT KIND
% OF HEAT GLOBAL WARMING MAY BRING
% WISCONSIN IN DECADES TO COME.
% A CHECK-IN WITH VOCES DE LA
% FRONTERIA ON IMMIGRATION
% ENFORCEMENT.
% AND THE PUBLIC SERVICE
% COMMISSION AND TRANSMISSION
% LINES.
% IT'S "HERE AND NOW" FOR JULY 19.
% >> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS
% PROVIDED, IN PART, BY FRIENDS OF
% WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.
% >> CONDITIONS ARE BRUTAL IN
% PARTS OF WISCONSIN HEADING INTO
% THE WEEKEND.
% TODAY, GOVERNOR TONY EVERS
% DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY
% FOR THE CITY OF MADISON AND DANE
% COUNTY DUE TO POWER OUTAGES AND
% EXTREME HEAT.
% >> THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
% DECLARES SOUTHERN WISCONSIN IS
% IN THE THROAS! THROES OF AN EXCESSIVE
% HEAT.
% THE STATE CAPITOL CLOSED FRIDAY.
% THAT'S BECAUSE TWO SUBSTATION
% FIRES AT MADISON GAS AND
% ELECTRIC CAUSED POWER OUTAGES
% ACROSS THE DOWNTOWN.
% THE UTILITY SAYS IT IS NOT
% BELIEVED THE STRAIN OF
% EXCESSTIVE HEAT CAUSED THE FIRES
% AND OUTAGES.
% THEY SAID IT WAS A MECHANICAL
% ISSUE.
% BUT THE CAUSE WAS UNDER
% INVESTIGATION.
% AT THE SAME TIME, SOUTHWEST
% WISCONSIN SAW ROADS AND HIGHWAYS
% CLOSED BECAUSE OF FLOODING AFTER
% NEARLY SIX INCHES OF RAIN
% THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY.
% >> WE CHECK IN NOW WITH TIM HALL
% HALLBACK ON THE PHONE FROM
% MILWAUKEE.
% SO THE GOVERNOR DECLARES THIS
% STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR MADISON
% AND DANE COUNTY BECAUSE HOW
% DANGEROUS ARE POWER OUTAGES IN
% THE MIDST OF THIS KIND OF
% EXTREME HOT WEATHER?
% >> WELL, EVERYBODY REALLY RELIES
% ON THEIR AIR CONDITIONING TO
% KEEP THEM COOL DURING THESE
% TIMES WHEN WE HAVE EXTREME HEAT
% LIKE THIS.
% IT'S PRETTY RARE FOR US TO GET
% TO THESE TYPES OF THRESHOLDS OF
% HEAT AND THAT COMBINATION OF
% THAT WITH THE HUMIDITY.
% SO PEOPLE REALLY RELY ON THAT
% AIR CONDITIONING TO KEEP THEM
% COOL.
% SO IF THAT GOES AWAY, THAT COULD
% BE A BIG ISSUE FOR PEOPLE TO TRY
% TO BEAT THE HEAT.
% >> WHAT IS YOUR PREDICTION AS TO
% ACTUALLY HOW HOT THAT HEAT
% INDEX, THAT FEELS LIKE
% TEMPERATURE, IS GOING TO BE
% FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY MORNING?
% >> YEAH.
% SO FOR TODAY SOME OF OUR HIGH
% TEMPERATURES OR THE TEMPERATURES
% THAT WE'RE SITTING AT RIGHT NOW,
% THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES THAT ARE
% BETWEEN 90 TO 95 DEGREES FOR THE
% AIR TEMPERATURE, AND THEN ON TOP
% OF THAT MOST PLACES HAVE A
% DEW POINT OF AROUND 80, WHICH
% NORMALLY WHEN YOU GET TO ABOUT
% 65 TO 70 FOR A DEW POINT, THAT'S
% WHEN YOU START FEELING THE
% HUMIDITY.
% IT'S VERY RARE FOR US TO GET
% THAT HIGH.
% SO THAT COMBINATION OF THE AIR
% TEMPERATURE AND THE DEW POINT
% LIKE THAT IS WHAT'S CAUSING THE
% HEAT INDEX TO BE SO HIGH.
% AND RIGHT NOW SOME OF THE
% MEASUREMENTS WE HAVE ARE THE
% HEAT INDEX UP AROUND 110, 115
% DEGREES, A VERY DANGEROUS
% SITUATION WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT
% NOW.
% WE DID EXTEND THE EXCESSIVE HEAT
% WARNING FOR THE SOUTHERN PART OF
% THE STATE UNTIL TOMORROW GOING
% INTO THE AFTERNOON.
% SO THAT INCLUDES DANE COUNTY AS
% WELL.
% >> OKAY.
% SO WHEN THE INDEX GETS INTO THAT
% RANGE, IT'S DANGEROUS EVEN FOR
% ON HEALTHY PEOPLE.
% >> THAT'S CORRECT.
% YEAH.
% SO YOU DON'T WANT TO BE DOING
% ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY OUTSIDE.
% THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS TYPICALLY
% WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON
% THEIR OWN THAT MIGHT HAVE HEALTH
% ISSUES THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE GONE
% AND PUT THEIR AIR CONDITIONING
% UNIT INTO THEIR WINDOW EVEN IF
% THEY HAD POWER.
% THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE ALWAYS
% TELL, CHECK ON THEM, YOUR
% NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS OR FAMILY
% MEMBERS THAT MIGHT BE LIVING ON
% THEIR OWN THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN
% ABLE TO UNTIL PUT IN THAT AIR
% CONDITIONING UNIT.
% SO ON DANGEROUS ALL AROUND.
% >> MEANWHILE, IT SEEMS LIKE
% THERE IS POTENTIALLY SOME WILD
% WEATHER OUT THERE.
% I'VE SEEN TORNADO WATCHINGS, IN
% MINNESOTA TORNADO WARNINGS.
% THERE'S BEEN FLOODING IN
% SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN.
% WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE
% STATUS OF THAT FLOODING?
% >> A LOT OF HEAVY RAIN THAT FELL
% OVERNIGHT FROM THE LA CROSSE
% AREA THROUGH SOUTHWESTERN
% WISCONSIN.
% THEY HAD ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE
% INCHES OF RAINFALL, STORMS THAT
% DIDN'T MOVE AND KEPT DROPPING A
% LOT OF RAINFALL IN THE SAME
% AREA.
% THAT CAUSED QUITE A BIT OF FLASH
% FLOOD WARNINGS LAST NIGHT.
% THE KICKAPOO RIVER BASIN JUMPED
% UP AND WILL BE GOING INTO THE
% MODERATE FLOOD STAGE THERE AS
% WELL.
% SO QUITE A BIT OF FLOODING IN
% THAT PORTION OF THE STATE FROM
% THE OVERNIGHT STORMS.
% >> WHAT ARE WE GEARING UP FOR
% OVER THE WEEKEND?
% MORE STORMS?
% MORE RAIN?
% MORE HEAT?
% >> YEAH.
% THE INITIAL CONCERN IS FOR
% TONIGHT IN THE NORTHERN PART OF
% THE STATE.
% THERE'S GOING TO BE VERY
% WIDESPREAD WIND DAMAGE AND
% POTENTIAL FOR LONG TRACK TORNADO
% SET UP UP THERE.
% SO THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THAT
% SEVERE WEATHER.
% THE HEAT CONTINUES INTO TOMORROW
% MORNING AND AFTERNOON FOR THE
% SOUTHERN PART OF THE STATE.
% THAT'S WHY WE EXTENDED THE
% EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING FOR THE
% SOUTHERN PART.
% WE HAVE A CHANCE FOR SEVERE
% THUNDERSTORMS IN THE AFTERNOON
% IN THAT SAME AREA.
% SO PRETTY ACTIVE STRETCH GOING
% INTO SATURDAY.
% LOOKS LIKE SUNDAY THROUGH THE
% REST OF NEXT WEEK LOOKS TO BE ON
% THE CALMER SIDE.
% >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR OUR
% PERSONAL WEATHER UPDATE.
% THANKS.
% >> NO PROBLEM.
% >> IN A NEW REPORT TITLED
% "KILLER HEAT" A GROUP CALLED THE
% UNION OF CONCERNED SCIENTISTS
% THIS WEEK SHOWED HOW IF LEFT
% UNABATED HEAT-TRAPPING EMISSIONS
% COULD TURN THE CLIMATE OF
% WISCONSIN INTO THAT OF
% ARKANSAS'S.
% TODAY BETWEEN 105 AND 115
% DEGREES FEELS LIKE TEMPERATURE.
% THERE HAS BEEN ONE DAY ON
% AVERAGE WITH A HEAT INDEX OF
% OVER 100.
% IT COULD INCREASE TO 14 AND TO
% 32 SUCH DAYS BY THE END OF THE
% CENTURY.
% HOW DOES THIS STUDY SQUARE WITH
% THE WORK OF OUR OWN SCIENTISTS
% HERE IN WISCONSIN?
% WE CHECK IN WITH MICHAEL NOTARO
% AND THE NELSON INSTITUTE FOR
% CLIMATIC RESEARCH AND THANKS
% VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
% >> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
% >> AS WE MENTIONED, IN SOUTHERN
% WISCONSIN THE HEAT INDEX IS
% BETWEEN 105 AND 115 DEGREES.
% HOW CLOSE IS THAT TO WHAT
% SCIENTISTS DESCRIBE AS
% OFF-THE-CHARTS HEAT?
% >> WELL, RIGHT NOW I THINK THIS
% IS ABOUT AS HOT AS IT'S BEEN
% SINCE ABOUT 2012, SO WE HAVE
% TEMPERATURES IN THE LOW 90s.
% WE HAVE DEW POINTS THAT ARE IN
% THE MID 70s.
% WE HAVE HEAT INDICES ABOUT 105.
% THEREFORE AN EXCESSIVE HEAT
% WARNING.
% IN 2012 WE GOT ABOUT 103 DEGREES
% FAHRENHEIT, BUT COMPARABLE HEAT
% INDICES.
% THIS IS PRETTY HIGH UP THERE,
% MUCH MORE INTENSE THAN WE
% TYPICALLY GET IN WISCONSIN.
% WITH THE EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING,
% PEOPLE ARE BEING ADVISED TO BE
% CAREFUL, EVEN HEALTHY ADULTS AT
% THIS POINT.
% >> SO WHEN CLINICAL SCIENTISTS
% SEE THIS KIND OF PERHAPS "KILLER
% HEAT," DO YOU ATTRIBUTE IT TO
% CLIMATE CHANGE OR EMISSIONS?
% >> I WOULD NOT CONTRIBUTE A
% SINGLE EVENT TO HUMAN-INDUCED
% CLIMATE CHANGE AS CONSISTENT OF
% WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT IN THAT
% DIRECTION.
% THERE'S A STUDY FROM UC-DAVIS
% WHICH SHOWED WE HAVE IN THE
% MIDWEST WHAT'S CALLED A WARMING
% HOLE, WHERE THE SUMMER HIGH
% TEMPERATURES HAVE NOT YET
% WARMED, BUT THE DEW POINT
% TEMPERATURES AND HEAT INDICES
% HAVE BEEN INCREASING.
% AS YOU REFERRED TO FROM THE
% STUDY FROM THE UNION OF
% CONCERNED SCIENTISTS, THERE'S A
% LARGE PROJECTED INCREASE IN HEAT
% INDICES.
% IT'S CONSISTENT IN THAT
% DIRECTION, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO
% ATTRIBUTE SINGLE EVENTS TO
% CLIMATE CHANGE.
% >> DOES YOUR RESEARCH SQUARE
% WITH THIS UNION OF CONCERNED
% SCIENTISTS?
% >> YES.
% I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH A
% COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE
% UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON,
% THE DNR AND OTHER STATE
% GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, ALONG WITH
% TRIBAL ORGANIZATIONS AND
% BUSINESSES.
% WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WHAT'S
% CALLED DOWN SCALING WORK, TRYING
% TO DEVELOP CLIMATE PROJECTIONS
% FOR WISCONSIN.
% A LOT OF WHAT THEY'VE GENERATED
% THROUGH THEIR STUDY WAS
% CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE FOUND.
% THEY'RE USING THE SAME SET OF
% MODELS AND ESTIMATES USED BY THE
% INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON
% CLIMATE CHANGE AND THEY'RE USING
% A VERY COMMONLY USED STATISTICAL
% CLIMATE CHANGE PRODUCT.
% SO IT'S CONSISTENT.
% >> SO ONE FINDING WAS BY
% MID-CENTURY WITH NO REDUCTION IN
% EMISSIONS A THIRD OF THE UNITED
% STATES WILL EXPERIENCE OFF THE
% CHART HEAT INDEXES.
% >> BASICALLY YOU CAN PICTURE A
% HEAT INDEX TABLE ON WHICH THEY
% SHOW THE HIGH TEMPERATURE VERSUS
% HELL RIFF!!!VERSUS-- RELATIVE HUMIDITY.
% WHEN IT GETS HIGH ENOUGH, THE
% HEAT INDEX IS NO LONGER
% CONSIDERED A RELIABLE MEASURE.
% THEY'RE ESTIMATING THAT A
% SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR
% COUNTRY WILL EVENTUALLY MOVE
% INTO THAT REALM.
% EVEN BY THE END OF THE CENTURY
% PARTS OF WISCONSIN MAY ENCOUNTER
% THOSE KIND OF HEAT EXPERIENCES.
% OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU ZOOM BACK TO
% THE JULY, 2012 EPISODE, EVEN IN
% WISCONSIN THERE WAS ABOUT A
% DOZEN DEATHS AND HUNDREDS OF
% HOSPITALIZATIONS AND THAT PALES
% IN COMPARISON TO WHAT MAY COME.
% THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NEW NORM
% BY THE END OF THE END OF THE
% CENTURY, MORE TYPICAL OF WHAT
% YOU GET IN TERMS OF TEMPERATURES
% WITH EXPECTED WARMING OF AIR
% TEMPERATURES.
% >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO
% MIGHT DISCOUNT THIS KIND OF
% RESEARCH AND FIND IT TO BE EX
% EXAGGERATED?
% >> WELL, ONE OF THE LATEST SHOWS
% EVIDENCE IS RELATED TO WARMING
% THROUGH HUMAN ACTIVITIES IS
% THROUGH THE IPCC, A SERIES OF
% CLIMATE MODELS HAVE BEEN RUN
% BOTH WITH HUMAN-INDUCED CARBON
% EMISSIONS AND WITHOUT DID.
% THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN PRODUCE THE
% WARMING IS TO INCLUDE HUMAN
% EMISSIONS.
% WE KNOW THE OBVIOUS SOURCE OF
% EVIDENCE OF GREENHOUSE GASES AND
% THE KNOWN PHYSICS FIND THEM,
% TRAPPING IN RADIATION, PRODUCING
% WARMING.
% SO IT'S LOGICAL.
% YOU CAN LOOK AT THE GLOBAL
% TRENDS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING
% UP TO NOW.
% ALMOST THE WHOLE WORLD IS
% WARMING.
% ENTSZ ARE!!EVENTS ARE BECOMING MORE
% EXTREME, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT
% THE CLIMATE MODELS HAVE BEEN
% SHOWING.
% >> WHAT KIND OF ACTION COULD
% SLOW THE INCREASE IN THESE HOT
% TEMPERATURES?
% >> THE NICE THING WITH THE UNION
% OF CONCERNED SCIENTISTS REPORT
% IS THERE'S A SENSE OF HOPE
% OFFERED THERE IN THAT THEY WERE
% SHOWING THAT IF WE ARE RIGOROUS
% IN ATTACKING OUR EMISSIONS NOW,
% THAT MORE FAVORABLE SCENARIO, WE
% CAN DRAMATICALLY REDUCE THE
% EXTREME HEAT BY THE END OF THE
% CENTURY IN PARTICULAR.
% SO THAT'S ENCOURAGING.
% WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
% IT.
% BUT THAT INVOLVES BEING VERY
% PROACTIVE, REDUCING THE USE OF
% FOSSIL FUELS, RELYING ON CLEAN
% ENERGIES, BECOMING ACTIVE IN THE
% PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT.
% LIKEWISE, FOR THE LOW AND HIGH
% END EMISSION SCENARIOS, IT'S
% GOING TO GET HOTTER, SO WE NEED
% TO ADAPT ALSO.
% AND THAT INVOLVES, AS
% RECOMMENDED, DEVELOPING PLANS TO
% PROTECT VULNERABLE POPULATIONS,
% MAPPING OUT WHERE THOSE
% POPULATIONS ARE, COMING UP WITH
% MORE CLEAN ENERGIES, ENERGIES
% THAT WE DON'T LOSE POWER SO
% EASILY, KEEP THE ENERGY,
% ELECTRICITY FLOWING FOR PEOPLE
% EVEN IF THEY DON'T PAY THEIR
% BILLS, HAVING EMERGENCY PLANS.
% THOSE ARE ALL SORTS OF
% MITIGATION AND ADAPTATION.
% >> YOU MENTIONED PRECIPITATION
% AS PART OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
% SO WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT
% FRONT IN WISCONSIN EVEN AS WE
% SPEAK?
% >> YEAH.
% SO WISCONSIN HAS BEEN SIMILAR TO
% MOST OF THE WORLD, WHERE EXTREME
% RAINFALL EVENTS ARE BECOMING
% MORE FREQUENT AND MORE INTENSE.
% THE PHYSICS BEHIND THAT IS AS
% AIR IS WARMER, IT BECOMES A MORE
% EFFECTIVE SPONGE OF MOISTURE.
% YOU HAVE LARGER DOWNPOURS.
% YOU CAN SEE PARTICULARLY IN
% SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL WISCONSIN A
% VAST INCREASE NOT JUST OF ANNUAL
% PRECIPITATION, BUT THE FREQUENCY
% OF RAINFALL EVENTS, FLOODING
% EVENTS.
% NOT JUST THE LAKE DELTON EVENT.
% THOSE HAVE LARGE EFFECTS.
% OVERALL YOU CAN ARGUE THAT THE
% BIGGEST EFFECTS OF CLIMATE
% CHANGE ARE THE EXTREMES, SO THE
% HOT DAYS LIKE TODAY, WHICH
% STRESS HUMAN HEALTH, HEAVY
% FLOODING EVENTS FROM HEAVY
% RAINFALL.
% >> ALL RIGHT.
% MICHAEL NOTARO, THANKS FOR YOUR
% WORK.
% >> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
% >> WISCONSIN U.S. REPRESENTATIVE
% MARK POCAN REPORTED BACK THIS
% WEEK ON HIS RECENT VISIT TO A
% MIGRANT CHILDREN'S FACILITY IN
% HOMESTEAD, FLORIDA.
% HE REPORTED TEENAGERS WERE BEING
% HELD WELL OVER 20 DAYS.
% FEDERAL AUTHORITIES SAY IT'S A
% TEMPORARY SHELTER AND NOT BOUND
% BY LENGTH OF STAY REQUIREMENTS.
% FOLLOWING A MIDWEEK BEFORE THE
% SENATE HOMELAND SECURITY
% COMMISSION, CHAIRMAN RON JOHNSON
% CALLED FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF HIS
% PLAN TO SPEED UP ASYLUM
% CONSIDERATIONS OF IMMIGRANTS
% CROSSING THE BORDER.
% "OPERATION SAFE RETURN" WOULD
% ALLOW HOMELAND SECURITY TO
% DEPORT IMMIGRANT FAMILIES WITHIN
% 15 DAYS IF NO DETERMINATION OF A
% CREDIBLE FEAR OF THEIR RETURNING
% TO THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN HAS
% BEEN AFFIRMED BY AN IMMIGRATION
% JUDGE.
% WE CHECK IN ON THESE TOPICS NOW
% WITH CHRISTINE NEUMANN-ORTIZ,
% EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF VOCES DE
% LA FRONTERIA, WHO JOINS US NOW
% FROM MILWAUKEE.
% THANK YOU FOR DOING SO.
% >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
% >> WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO
% SENATOR JOHNSON'S RETURN PLAN TO
% RETURN THOSE WITHOUT VALID
% COMPLAIMS TO THEIR HOME
% COUNTRIES?
% >> THERE'S NO QUESTION THIS WILL
% CREATE MORE FARM FOR FAMILIES
% THAT ARE COMING TO THE UNITED
% STATES TO BE REUNITED WITH THEIR
% FAMILY AND ARE FLEEING VIOLENCE.
% RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH
% THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS THAT
% THERE IS A HUMAN RIGHTS CRISIS
% THAT'S HAPPENING, WHERE PEOPLE
% ARE BEING -- WHO ARE SEEKING
% REFUGE, WHO ARE FLEEING
% HORRENDOUS CONDITIONS, ARE BEING
% PARADED IN FRONT OF THE -- NOT
% JUST THE UNITED STATES, BUT THE
% WORLD TO SEE HOW THEIR HUMIDITY
% IS BEING DEGRADED.
% THEY ARE BEING DENIED.
% THEIR RIGHT TO SEEK ASYLUM
% THROUGH EFFORTS AS IN TRYING TO
% STRONG-ARM OTHER GOVERNMENTS TO
% PREVENT THEM FROM COMING TO THE
% UNITED STATES.
% THEY'RE ALSO BEING DENIED IN
% MANY WAYS LEGAL REPRESENTATION,
% BEING DENIED FOOD, WATER,
% LEADING TO DEATH OF CHILDREN.
% SO THESE ARE CONDITIONS THAT
% DON'T HAVE TO EXIST, YET THEY
% ARE BEING CREATED INTENTIONALLY
% TO DEGRADE AN ENTIRE GROUP OF
% PEOPLE.
% AND SENATOR JOHNSON IS MOVING --
% BASICALLY ACCELERATING A PROCESS
% THAT IS ABHORRENT AND IS
% OUTRAGING SO MANY PEOPLE ACROSS
% THE COUNTRY.
% WHICH IS WHY WE SAW NATIONALLY
% ALL THESE PROTESTS THAT WERE
% BEING ORGANIZED AROUND WHAT
% WE'RE WITNESSING AT THE BORDER.
% >> AS WE NOTED, REPRESENTATIVE
% MARK POCAN VISITED THE HOMESTEAD
% FACILITY AND HE SAID THAT THE
% NUMBERS OF CHILDREN THERE WERE
% DOWN AND HE SAID HE DIDN'T SEE
% HORRIFIC CONDITIONS.
% DO YOU SUPPOSE THINGS ARE
% GETTING BETTER?
% >> NO.
% THEY'RE NOT GETTING BETTER,
% BECAUSE WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT
% PEOPLE ARE STILL -- RIGHT NOW
% THEY'RE STILL BEING -- THAT
% PROCESS, IT'S BEING INTERFERED
% WITH.
% WE JUST HAVE HAD THOSE RECENT
% REPORTS AND OTHER SITE VISITS.
% SO MAYBE IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE,
% IF THEY KNOW HE'S VISITING AND
% WHAT HE'S GOING TO REPORT OUT, I
% DON'T WANT TO SEE THOSE
% CONDITIONS, I DON'T WANT THAT TO
% BE REPORTED.
% BUT GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT IS
% HAPPENING -- AND ALL OF THE
% OFFICIAL REPORTS THAT HAVE COME
% OUT BASICALLY DECLARING THAT
% THIS IS STATE-SPONSORED TERROR
% THAT IS HAPPENING IN TERMS OF
% HOW THESE KIDS ARE BEING
% IMPACTED.
% AND THIS IS FROM, YOU KNOW, A
% FORMAL INVESTIGATIONS AND
% INTERVIEWS.
% I WOULD SAY NO, THINGS ARE NOT
% HAPPENING THE WAY THEY SHOULD.
% AND WE CONSTANTLY SEE THAT EVERY
% DAY WHEN SOMETHING IS BEING
% ANNOUNCED.
% >> HOW MANY CHILDREN AND/OR
% FAMILIES SEEKING ASYLUM HAVE
% COME TO WISCONSIN, IF YOU KNOW?
% >> I DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL
% NUMBERS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN
% WORKING WITH FAMILIES.
% THE ONES THAT WE HAVE BEEN
% WORKING WITH CLOSEST HAVE BEEN
% COMING FROM THE KENOSHA
% DETENTION FACILITY, AND A NUMBER
% OF THOSE FAMILIES ARE ALSO LIKE
% IN SOME CASES -- WELL, PEOPLE IN
% THAT SITUATION WHAT WE FIND
% MOSTLY IS THAT THE THING THAT
% THEY'RE MOST DESPERATE FOR IS TO
% TRY TO CONNECT UP WITH A FAMILY
% MEMBER.
% AND THIS WHOLE DETENTION
% PROCESS, IT'S NOT JUST FUELED BY
% THIS KIND OF HATRED AND
% DEGRADATION OF PEOPLE FROM OTHER
% COUNTRIES.
% IT'S ALSO FUELED BY BIG
% BUSINESS.
% SO THERE'S NOW LIKE FEES TO CALL
% SOMEONE.
% THERE'S ALL THESE WAYS THAT
% MONEY IS BEING MADE OUT OF THE
% DETENTION OF PEOPLE THAT FOLKS
% STRUGGLE.
% THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE OF
% BEING ABLE TO EVEN APPLY YOUR
% RIGHT WHEN YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO
% MAKE A PHONE CALL OR TO GET A
% CREDIT CARD TO CONTACT SOMEONE.
% SO IN MANY WAYS THAT'S HOW THE
% COMMUNITY HAS BEEN HELPING
% PEOPLE TO ESTABLISH THOSE
% CONNECTIONS OR RAISE MONEY FOR A
% A BOND, A BOND WHICH CAN BE VERY
% EXPENSIVE, WHICH IS ANOTHER WAY
% TO KIND OF PRICE OUT SOMEONE OUT
% OF THEIR -- OUT OF THE RIGHTS
% THAT THEY HAVE.
% >> THIS PAST SUNDAY WAS SUPPOSED
% TO BE A DAY WHEN ICE CONDUCTED
% RAISED TO PICK UP UNDOCUMENTED
% PEOPLE IN TEN CITIES ACROSS THE
% U.S.
% THAT DIDN'T APPEAR TO TAKE
% PLACE.
% BUT WHAT IS LIKE IN THE
% IMMIGRANT POPULATION EVEN HERE
% IN WISCONSIN WHEN THESE RAISED
% ARE ANNOUNCED?
% >> THERE IS, OF COURSE,
% NATURALLY, TREMENDOUS CONCERN.
% PEOPLE ARE -- YOU KNOW, THEY
% HAVE LIKE WHAT SO MANY PEOPLE
% SAY.
% IT'S LIKE I HAVE TO GO ABOUT MY
% -- I HAVE TO GO ABOUT MY DAILY
% BUSINESS BECAUSE I HAVE -- I
% HAVE TO SUPPORT MY FAMILY.
% BUT YEAH.
% PEOPLE LIVE IN FEAR.
% AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO CONQUER
% THAT FEAR IS SINCE THE TRUMP
% ADMINISTRATION CAME INTO OFFICE
% AND ALL THESE PROTECTIONS WERE
% TAKEN AWAY, THAT WOULD TAKE INTO
% ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, YOUR RECORD,
% HOW LONG YOUR FAMILY TIES, ALL
% OF THAT, WHICH NOW IS IRRELEVANT
% UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION,
% WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS CREATE A
% 24-HOUR, SEVEN-DAY EMERGENCY
% NUMBER.
% THIS IS COMMON NATIONALLY AS A
% WAY THAT IMMIGRANT RIGHTS
% ORGANIZATIONS HAVE RESPONDED SO
% THAT IF THERE IS AN ICE
% SIGHTING, THAT IS REPORTED AND
% CAN VERIFY IF IT'S A LEGITIMATE
% RUMOR OR NOT.
% WE ASK PEOPLE TO VIDEOTAPE OR
% PHOTOGRAPH, HAVE PEOPLE GO
% THERE.
% IF IT IS THE CASE, TO WORK WITH
% THOSE FAMILIES.
% IF THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN REAL
% TIME OR HAVEN'T HAPPENED, THERE
% IS NOW A STRONG SENTIMENT OF
% RESISTANCE.
% THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A MAJOR
% RAID RIGHT BEFORE THE 2018
% ELECTIONS HERE, THE LARGEST I
% HAD SEEN IN 20 YEARS OF
% ORGANIZING THAT LASTED SEVERAL
% DAYS THROUGHOUT THE STATE, A --
% FOR EXAMPLE, IN MADISON, YOU HAD
% HOTEL WORKERS THAT REPORTED THAT
% ICE AGENTS WERE STAYING IN THE
% HOTEL AND THAT WAS ABLE TO GET
% OUT AND THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY
% COMMUNITY MEETING AND FOLKS WERE
% READY TO GO AND DO CIVIL
% DISOBEDIENCE IN THE STREETS TO
% DEMAND THAT ICE LEAVE THE
% COMMUNITY.
% JUST IN MILWAUKEE THERE WAS A
% SHUTDOWN OF ICE FACILITIES BY 30
% FAITH LEADERS.
% THAT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED
% BEFORE.
% SO THE EXTREME SENSE OF
% SOLIDARITY AND STANDING UP FOR
% IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES AT THIS
% TIME I WOULD SAY IS THE OTHER
% SIDE OF THE COIN OF WHAT'S
% HAPPENING, THAT THERE IS
% SOMETHING THAT IS VERY INSPIRING
% AND GOOD.
% >> ALL RIGHT.
% WE NEED TO LEAVE IT THERE.
% CHRISTINE NEUMANN-ORTIZ, THANKS
% VERY MUCH.
% NEWS TODAY OUT OF MADISON WAS
% FOCUSED ON POWER OR LACK OF IT
% DUE TO A MECHANICAL FAILURE AT
% THE CITY'S MAIN PLANT.
% ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION IS ALSO
% THE TOPIC OF OUR WISCONSIN LOOK
% TONIGHT.
% IT'S A LOOK AT SOUTHWESTERN
% WISCONSIN, WHERE SOME RESIDENTS
% WORRY ABOUT THE IMPACT OF A
% PROPOSED POWER LINE RUNNING FROM
% THE MADISON AREA TO DUBUQUE,
% IOWA.
% STUDENT JOURNALIST WILL KEN
% NEELY HAS MORE.
% >> THE LAND HAS DEEP MEANING FOR
% THE REGION.
% >> IT'S A SPECIAL PLACE.
% >> KILEY AND ERIC CATES SPENT A
% SUNNY AFTERNOON AWAY FROM THE
% FARM TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD
% IN MADISON.
% >> WE HAVE STRONG CONSERVATION
% ON OUR FARM.
% SO DOES OUR TOWN COMMUNITY,
% FARMING COMMUNITY.
% WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE TOWERS
% GROW UP.
% >> THEY ARE PART OF A GROUP OF
% RESIDENTS VOICING A CONCERN
% ABOUT A POWER LINE THAT WOULD
% CONNECT JUST WEST OF MADISON
% WITH DUBUQUE, IOWA.
% IT'S BEFORE THE STATE'S PUBLIC
% SERVICE COMMISSION, WHICH WILL
% DECIDE WHETHER THE CARDINAL
% HICKORY-CREEK PROJECT IS
% NECESSARY.
% AMERICAN TRANSMISSION COMPANIES
% SAYS THE PROJECT IS CRUCIAL TO
% ALLEVIATE THE STRAIN ON THE
% REGION'S ENERGY GRID.
% >> TRANSMISSION LINES DON'T
% START AND STOP AT STATE LINES.
% IT'S MUCH LIKE THE INTERSTATE
% HIGHWAY SYSTEM.
% SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS
% THAT THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY
% ADDRESSES, IS REDUCING THE
% CONGESTION THAT HAS COME ABOUT
% OVER THE YEARS WITH THE
% CONSTRAINTS ON THE ELECTRIC
% TRANSMISSION SYSTEM.
% >> THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION
% ASKS THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN ON
% THE NEED FOR THE NEW LINE,
% HOLDING HEARINGS IN LANCASTER,
% MADISON AND DODGEVILLE.
% >> THIS IS VERY DISTURBING TO US
% AND WOULD CHANGE OUR QUALITY OF
% OUR LIVES, WOULD CHANGE THE
% AESTHETICS OF THE LAND THERE AND
% CAUSE ALL KINDS OF ENVIRONMENTAL
% PROBLEMS.
% >> FOR THE CATES, THIS IS
% CRUCIAL TO THEIR AREA.
% >> YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A VERY
% SMALL TOWNSHIP THAT'S RIGHT OFF
% OF THE RIVER AND IT'S VERY
% REMINISCE CENTS OF!!!REMINISCENT OF 40, 50 YEARS AGO.
% WE HAVE STRICT ORDINANCES TO
% WHERE YOU CAN BUILD A HOME AND
% JUST IN ORDER TO KEEP A VERY
% SPECIFIC LOOK IN OUR TOWNSHIP.
% AND HAVING A CELL TOWER IS JUST
% NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PASSED
% IN OUR TOWN ON.
% SO TO PUT THIS IN THERE WOULD BE
% DIVISIVE AND HARD FOR OUR
% COMMUNITY.
% >> THE PROPOSED POWERS WOULD BE
% UPWARDS OF 175 OF FEET AND NEED
% 75-FOOT CLEARANCES ON BOTH
% LIENSZ.
% THE LINES WOULD BE BUILT ON
% EXISTING RIGHTS-OF-WAY WHERE
% POWER LINES ARE ALREADY LOCATED.
% 5% OF THE LINES WOULD BE OVER
% NEW GROUND.
% >> WE STRIVE TO CREATE THE LEAST
% AMOUNT OF IMPACT AS POSSIBLE.
% >> FOR THOSE AREAS WHERE NEW
% POWER LINES ARE NEEDED,
% RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO GIVE UP
% PART OF THEIR LAND.
% >> THE FIRST ALTERNATE ROUTE
% WENT RIGHT THROUGH OUR FARM.
% IT WENT KIND OF LIKE UP AND OVER
% THIS HILL AND UP AND OVER THAT
% HILL.
% SO JUST IMAGINING IN MY MIND I
% WAS IMAGINING HOW THE HECK WOULD
% THEY BUILD ALL THAT?
% IT'S CRAZY.
% >> THOSE OPPOSING THE PROJECT
% ARE ASKING FOR ALTERNATIVES,
% SUCH AS LOCAL RENEWABLE ENERGY
% PRODUCTION OR A BATTERY DRIVEN
% STORAGE SYSTEM.
% ATC SAYS LOCAL SOLUTIONS WOULD
% BE COSTLY.
% THE COST OF THE LINE WOULD BE
% SHARED ACROSS A WIDE REGION.
% >> WHAT IT DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH IS
% ALL OF THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT
% THE TRANSMISSION LINE OFFERS,
% WHICH IS ACCESS TO LOWER-COST
% POWER, REDUCTION OF CONGESTION
% ON THE ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION
% SYSTEM AND IMPROVED ACCESS TO
% RENEWABLE ENERGY RESOURCES.
% >> THE PSC IS EXPECTED TO MAKE A
% DECISION THIS FALL ON WHETHER
% THE PROJECT GETS THE GREEN
% LIGHT.
% REPORTING FROM MADISON, THIS IS
% WILL KENNEALLY.
% >> REGULATORS MUST ALSO SIGN OFF
% BEFORE THE PROJECT BREAKS GROUND
% IN 2021.
% IT'S EXPECTED TO BE OPERATIONAL
% IN 2023.
% THIS WEEK REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS
% WHOSE DISTRICTS ARE IN THE
% CORRIDOR SENT A LETTER
% QUESTIONING THE NEED FOR THE
% PROJECT.
% THEY ASKED FOR A COST BENEFIT
% ANALYSIS OF THE EXPANSION.
% THAT IS OUR PROGRAM FOR TONIGHT.
% NEXT FRIDAY, MARISA WOJCIK
% REPORTS ON THE HUMAN-MADE
% CHEMICAL HAZARD KNOWN AS PFAS
% AND WE'LL TALK WITH DNR
% SECRETARY PRESTON KOHL ABOUT -- COLE ABOUT
% WHAT THE STATE IS DOING TO
% HANDLE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL
% THREAT.
% I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
% HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
% >> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS
% PROVIDED, IN PART, BY FRIENDS OF
% WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.