% >>
I'M FREDERICA
FREYBERG.
% TONIGHT
ON "HERE AND
NOW,"
BIG
% FARMS,
BIG
CONTROVERSIES.
% MARISA
WOJCIK
REPORTS
ON A
% PROPOSED
CAFO
I
N
BURNETT
COUNTY.
% A
CLOSER
LOOK
AT
NEXT
SUMMER'S
% NATIONAL
DEMOCRATIC
CONVENTION
% IN
MILWAUKEE.
% AND AN
INSIDE LOOK
AT
THE
% GRIDLOCK
ON RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
% THE GOVERNOR
AND
THE
% LEGISLATURE.
% IT'S "HERE AND NOW"
FOR
% OCTOBER 18.%>>
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND
NOW"
IS
% PROVIDED,
IN
PART,
BY
FRIENDS
OF
% WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.
%
>>
A
FIRST
LOOK
TONIGHT
AT A
% CONTROVERSY
IN
NORTHWEST
% WISCONSIN.
% THAT'S
WHERE AN
IOWA-BASED
% COMPANY IS
TRYING
TO
BUILD
WHAT% WOULD B
E
THE
LARGEST
HOG% FACILITY IN
THE
STATE.
% OVER
THE
LAST
TWO
DECADES
% CONCENTRATED
FEEDING
ANIMAL
% OPERATIONS LIKE
THIS
ONE
HAVE
% INCREASED
THREEFOLD
AND
!
AND
% COMMUNITIES ARE
GRAPPLING
WITH
% HOW
TO
DEAL
WITH
THEM.% >>
IT'S
ONLY
COMPLETE
AS
THE
% NUMBERS
BECAUSE
IT'S
TWO
% DIFFERENT SETS
OF
NUMBERS.% >>
RAMONA MOODY
SPENT
HER
SUMMER
% DOING
RESEARCH.% >> THIS
IS
BURNETT
COUNTY.
% AND
THIS
SECTION
HERE
IS
TRADE
% LAKE
TOWNSHIP.
% AND
WHERE
THIS
ARROW
IS
POINTING% TO IS
THE
PROPOSED
26,350
HOG
% CAFO.
% >>
SHE
LIVES
ON
FIVE
ACRES
OF
% LAND
WITH
HER
HUSBAND.% >>
WE'VE
RAISED
OUR
FAMILY
HERE.
% HAD
THREE
KIDS.
% WE LOVE
THE
SETTING.
%
WE'VE
GOT
THE
GARDEN.
% WE'VE
DONE
ANIMALS.
% WE'VE
BEEN
HERE
FOR
30
YEARS
AND
% WE
WANT
TO
KEEP
IT
THAT
WAY.
% >>
BUT A
PROPOSAL
TO
BUILD A
% 26,000
HEAD
HOG
FACILITY IS
% THREATENING THAT
WAY
OF
LIFE.
% SO
SHE'S
BEEN
RESEARCHING THE
% INS AND
OUTS
OF
CAFOS.% >>
WORD OF
THE
PROPOSAL
FIRST
% CAME
AT A
TOWN
BOARD
MEETING
AND
% INTENTIONS
OF A
SWINE
OPERATION.% >> WE WERE
LOOKING
AT
THEIR
% TOWNSHIP
IN
JANUARY OF THIS
% YEAR.%IT
WAS
MY
DESIRE TO
BE
% TRANSPARENT AND
DISCUSS
AND
% DISCLOSE WHAT
WE'RE
LOOKING AT
% DOING.%>>
I'M
THINKING THAT HE
WAS
% PROBABLY
HOPING THAT WE
WERE A
% SLEEPY
COMMUNITY,
WHERE THEY
% COULD
JUST
MOVE
IN, IT
WOULD
BE
% HERE AND
W
E
WOULDN'T BE
ABLE
TO
% RESIST
BECAUSE IT
WAS
TOO
LATE.% >>
THE
CONTRACT
WAS
SIGNED
IN
% JUNE.%>> RAMONA MOODY
STARTED
HAVING
% CONVERSATIONS WITH
OTHER
% RESIDENTS
IN
OPPOSITION.% >>
WELL,
IT'S A
PRETTY
BIG
DEAL
% FOR
THIS
COMMUNITY.% >>
LIKE
ANDY
MARSHALL.% >>
MY
UNDERSTANDING
IS
THAT THIS
% IS
GOING TO
BE,
IF
NOT
THE
% LARGEST,
ONE OF
THE
LARGEST
HOG
% CAFOS
IN
THE
STATE.
% THERE
ISN'T
ANYTHING
LIKE
THIS
% IN THIS
AREAN
!
AREA,
IN
THIS
COUNTY,
% AND IT
HAS
THE
POTENTIAL TO
HAVE
% SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL
% IMPACTS,
IMPACTS
ON
PROPERTY
% VALUES
AND
POTENTIAL
HEALTH
% IMPACTS.
% SO
IT'S A BIG
DEAL.% >>
THE
TRADE
LAKE
AREA
HAS A
% HISTORY
OF
FARMING,
BUT
THERE'S
% BEEN A
STEADY
DECLINE
O
F
% AGRICULTURE
AND A
SHIFT
TOWARD
% TOURISM.
% ANNUAL
HOME
SALES
HAVE
SHOT
UP
% 330%
IN
THE
LAST
TEN
YEARS.
% THE WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF%
REVENUE HAS FOUND THAT
% PROPERTIES
CLOSE
TO
CAFOs
LOSE
% VALUE.%>>
THE
STATEMENTS
THAT
WE'VE
% HEARD IS IF
I WOULD
HAVE
KNOWN
% THAT THIS WAS
COMING
IN,
I
WOULD
% NEVER
HAVE
BOUGHT.% >>
THIS
MAP
IS
THE
WATERSHED FOR
% TRADE
LAKE.
% BOTH BIG
TRADE
AND
LITTLE
TRADE
% ARE ON THE
IMPAIRED
WATERS
LIST
% FOR
HIGH
PHOSPHORUS
ALREADY.% >>
ALL
OPERATIONS
MUST
APPLY
FOR% A PERMIT
WITH
THE
WISCONSIN% DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RE
SOURCES% TO PROTECT
NEARBY
WATERS.
% ADDITIONALLY,
LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS
% CAN CHOOSE
TO
ADOPT
STRICT
ER
% REGULATIONS
OVER
ODOR,
WASTE
% STORAGE
AND
RUNOFF.% >>
THEY
WANT
MORE
DETAILS.
% BUT AT
THE END OF THE
DAY
WE
% STILL
HAVE
TO COMPLY
WITH
THE
% REQUIREMENTS.%>>
WHAT
I'M
MOST
CONCERNED
ABOUT
% IS OUR
WATER.% >>
DOROTHY
RICHARDS
IS ON
THE% BOARD
OF
SUPERVISORS AND
% REPRESENTS THE
TRADE
LAKE
AREA.
% >>
IN
MAY I
STARTED
GETTING
% CALLS FROM
PEOPLE
IN
TRADE
LAKE.
% >> FROM
THERE,
BURNETT
COUNTY
% PASSED A
MORATORIUM
ON
ANY
NEW
% FACILITIES
LIKE
THIS
ONE
FROM
% BEING
BUILT.% >>
IT
PUTS A
HALT
ON
ANY
FURTHER
% CAFOs
UNTIL
THE
COUNTY
CAN
% STUDY IT.%>>
THE
YEAR-LONG
MORATORIUM IS
% TO
DECIDE
IF
ADDITIONAL
LOCAL
% ORDINANCES ARE
REQUIRED
TO
% PROTECT PUBLIC
HEALTH AND
SAFETY
% IN
BURNETT
COUNTY AS
WELL
AS
% DETERMINE WHERE
THE
COUNTY
HAS
% ENOUGH
RESOURCES
TO
MONITOR
AND
% ENFORCE RULES.
% BUT
THE
MORATORIUM
DOESN'T APPLY
% TO
JEFF
SAUER'S
APPLICATION.% >>
SO
THEY
SUBMITTED
THEIR
% APPLICATION
SHORTLY BEFORE
THE% VOTE
WAS
TO
TAKE
PLACE
AT
THE
% COUNTY.%>>
PEOPLE WHO
ARE
WANTING
TO
% SUPPORT THE
SITING OF
THE
CAFO
% IN
THIS
AREA
SAY
THAT
THESE
% ISSUES
ARE
NOT A
CONCERN,
THAT
% THEY
WON'T
MATERIALIZE
IN
% HAMPLE.
% BUT
THE
FACT
IS
NOBODY
KNOWS
% THAT RIGHT
NOW.
% SO
THE
REASONABLE RESPONSE WOULD% BE TO
FIND
OUT
IF
T
HESE
THINGS% ARE GOING TO BE A
PROBLEM.% >> THANK
YOU
FOR
ATTENDING
THIS
% PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
PROPOSED
% LIVESTOCK FACILITY
SITING
RULES.% >>
RECENTLY
THE DEPARTMENT
OF
% AGRICULTURE
HELD A
SERIES
OF
% PUBLIC HEARINGS ABOUT
THE
RULES,
% WHICH
SOME
FARMERS
SAY
ARE
TOO
% RESTRICTIVE.
% IT
FORCES
THEM
TO
GROW
IN
SIZE
% IN
ORDER
TO
MAKE
ENDS
MEET.
% >>
IN
THE
LAST
TWO
YEARS, WE
% HAVE
SPENT
$3
MILLION TO
MEET
% THE
REGULATIONS THAT
THEY
WANT
% US TO
MEET.
% THAT
$3
MILLION, YOU HAVE
TO
PAY
% FOR IT SOMEHOW.
% AND
HOW
DO
PEOPLE PAY
FOR
IT?
% IT REQUIRES
YOU
TO
EXPAND.% >>
IT'S
PUTTING
FAMILY
FARMS OUT
% OF
BUSINESS.% >>
THE
THING
THAT
PEOPLE DON'T
% THINK
ABOUT
IS A
FAMILY
CAN'T
% SUSTAIN
THAT,
THOSE
COSTS,
% WHEREAS
THE
BIG
BOYS,
IT'S
NO
% PROBLEM FOR
THEM.% >>
FARMERS
WANT
THE
RIGHT
TO
% FARM,
BUT
RESIDENTS
WANT
THE
% RIGHT
TO
ENJOY
THEIR
LAND.
% DIE
!
DIANE
AND
STEVE
PASNO LIVE
IN
% WATERTOWN AND
SPOKE
TO
THEIR
% EXPERIENCE OF
LIVING NEXT
TO A
% CAFO.%>>
YOU'RE
IMPEDING
FROM
ENJOYING
% THE
NATURALNESS
OF
OUR
PROPERTY
% DUE TO
THE
ODORS, FROM UK
WING
WALKING
% THE
ROADS
AND
SIMPLY
LIVE
OUR
% LIVES.
% >>
OUR
DREAM
OF
LIVING
THE
% PICTURESQUE
LIFE HAS
BEEN
% SHATTERED.
% COUPLED WITH
LOCAL,
STATE
AND
% FEDERAL
GOVERNMENTAL
BODIES'
% UNRESPONSIVENESS
HAS
DEVASTATED
% OUR
CURRENT HOME
LIFE.
% >>
RESIDENTS
OF
TRADE
LAKE
ARE
% WORRIED
THAT
THIS
WILL
HAPPEN
TO
% THEM.
% BECAUSE
WITNESS
IS A
RIGHT
TO
% FARM
STATE,
IT'S
DIFFICULT
TO
% BRING
LAWSUITS
AGAINST
FARMERS.% >>
WE
WANT TO
BE A
GOOD
% NEIGHBOR, GOOD TO
THE
COMMUNITY
% AND GOOD
FOR
THE
PEOPLE
IN
% GENERAL.
% UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS NOT
% RECEIVED THAT
WAY.% >>
GOOD
NEIGHBORS.
% IN A
RURAL
COMMUNITY, IT'S
ALL
% ABOUT
KNOWING YOUR
NEIGHBORS.
% AND THAT'S
WHERE A
LOT
OF
% ANXIETY IS
COMING
FROM.
% THEY
DON'T
EXACTLY
KNOW
WHO
% THEIR
NEW
NEIGHBOR WILL
BE
AND% THIS
IS
WHERE
IT
GETS
CON% AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.% >>
YOU
SAID
YOU'RE A CON
FULT
% ANT?
% >>
WELL,
I
AM.
% I WILL
BE
PART
OWNER
OF
THAT
% SITE AS
WELL.
% >>
JEFF
SAUER
RECENTLY TESTIFIED
% IN A DEPOSITION THAT
HE'S
% ESSENTIALLY
ON A
CONTINGENT FEE
% ARRANGEMENT
WITH
CUMBERLAND
LLC
% WHERE
HE'S
DOING
WHATEVER
HE
CAN% TO
GET
THIS
FACILITY
SITED, BUT
% HE'S
NOT
GOING TO
GET
PAID
% UNLESS
IT'S UP
AND
RUNNING.
% >>
THE
DNR
SAYS
PERMITS ARE
% ISSUED
TO
CUMBERLAND, BUT
IT
% ISN'T
OWNED
B
Y
JEFF
SAUER,
BUT A
% MAJOR
HOG
PRODUCER OUT
OF
IOWA.
% >>
I'VE
LOOKED
AT
SOME OF
THE
% DOCUMENTS
FOR
THE
LLC
THAT HAVE
% BEEN FILED WITH
THE
STATE,
AND
% MY
UNDERSTANDING
OF
THOSE
% DOCUMENTS IS
THAT
THEY
REFLECT
% THAT
THE
OWNERS
ARE
AFFILIATED
% WITH AN
OUTFIT
CALLED
SUIDAE.% >>
IT'S A
MANAGEMENT
% VETERINARIAN COMPANY, HEALTH AND%
PRODUCTION.
% THEY'RE NOT
TECHNICALLY
OWNERS
% OF
SWINE.
% SO
THEY
BASICALLY
HAVE A
% CLIENTELE THAT
OWN
HOGS
AND
THEY
% SERVICE AND
DO
THE
MANAGEMENT OF
% THE
PRODUCTION SIDE.% >>
JEFF SAUER
REFERS
TO
THIS
AS
% CONTRACT FARMING
AND
IT'S
COMMON
% PRACTICE.
% FARMERS
DON'T
HAVE
TO
PERSONALLY% TAKE ON
ALL OF
THE
COSTS,
DEBTS
% AND RISK.
% FOR RAMONA MOODY
IT
COMES BACK
% TO NOT
KNOWING
HER
NEIGHBOR.% >>
AND
THAT'S
WHERE
WE
COME BACK
% TO
THERE'S
AN
LLC.
% THEY
CAN
PICK UP
AND
MOVE
ON
% WHEN
THE
MOMENT
IS
RIGHT
FOR
% THEM,
LEAVING US
WITH
THE
% CLEAN-UP, WHATEVER
THEY'VE LEFT
% IN
THEIR
FACILITIES.
% THAT ENDS UP
BECOMING OUR
% RESPONSIBILITY.
% SO
WHO
HOLDS
THEM
ACCOUNTABLE?
% >> TO
BE
HONEST WITH
YOU,
THEY
% ALL
HAVE A
PRECONCEIVED
IDEA
% THEY DON'T WANT
IT.
% THEY
HAVE
CAFOS?
% THEIR
BACKYARD
CURRENTLY.
% >>
THERE
IS
ANOTHER
FAY
!
CAFO
FIVE
% MILES
AWAY.
% IT'S
BEEN A
FAMILY
FARM
SINCE
18
% #
7.
% TODAY,
ACCORDING
TO
ITS
DNR
% PERMIT
IT
HAS
JUST
OVER
1,000
% COWS.
% ANDY
MARSHALL DOESN'T
TAKE
ISSUE
% WITH A
PROVEN
CAFO.
% >>
THIS
TYPE
OF
MOVEMENT
DIDN'T
% OCCUR
UNTIL
PEOPLE
BECAME
AWARE% THIS
!
THERE
WAS
THIS
26,000
HOG
CAFO
% THAT
WANTED
TO
MOVE
IN
DOWN
THE
% ROAD.
% PEOPLE
WERE
NOT
SCRAMBLING
T
O
% REGULATE
FOUR
CUBS,
TO
REGULATE
% OTHER
SMALLER
FARMING
% OPERATIONS.%THAT'S
THE
BIGGEST
% MISCONCEPTION, MAYBE
% INTENTIONALLY
CREATED TO
GET
% FARMERS UP IN
ARMS
AND
SAY
WE
% CAN'T
BE
FURTHER
REGULATED.% >> THERE
IS
NO
LIMIT ON THE
% NUMBER
OF
A
NIMALS A FARM
CAN
% HAVE.
% HOWEVER, THIS IS
CURRENTLY
BEING
% LITIGATED.
% FOR
JEFF
SAUER
LARGE-SCALE% FARMING
IS
THE
FUTURE
AND A
% REALITY
O
F
ECONOMIC
EFFICIENCY.
% >>
I'M AN
ADVOCATE
OF
ALL
AG,
% LARGE AND
SCAWL.% >>
THE
NUMBERS
AREN'T
WORKING.
% LAST
YEAR
WISCONSIN
LOST
TWO
% DAIRY FARMS
PER
DAY.
% U.S. SECRETARY
OF
AGRICULTURE% SONNY
PERDUE
MADE
HEADLINES
WHEN
% HE
STATED
WHEN
IT
COMES
TO
% FAMILY FARMS
THE
BIG
GET
BIGGER
% AND
THE
SMALL
GET
OUT.
% FOR RAMONA
MOODY,
SHE
DOESN'T
% THINK
THIS
SHOULD
COME
AT A COST
% TO
HER.
% >>
I
AGREE
PEOPLE SHOULD BE
ABLE
% TO
DO
WHAT
THEY
WANT
ON
THEIR
% OWN PROPERTY.
% BUT IT
SHOULDN'T
AFFECT
YOUR
% NEIGHBORS.%>>
REPORTING
FROM
BURNETT
% COUNTY, I'M MARISA
WOJCIK.
% >>
THE
DISPUTE OVER THE
PROPOSED
% 26,000-HEAD HOG
OPERATION
HAS
% GOTTEN
SO
CONTENTIOUS
THAT
% THERE'S A LAWSUIT
TO
REMOVE
THE% TOWN
OF
TRADE
LAKE
BOARD
CHAIR
% FROM
HIS
POSITION
FOR
FINANCIAL
% CONFLICT
OF
INTEREST
IN
HIS
% DEALINGS
WITH
THE
PROJECT.
% NEXT,
WE
TURN
TO A
LOOK
AT
SOME
% COMPANION
REPORTING
ON
CAFOs
% IN WISCONSIN AND
FOR
THAT
WE
GO
% TO WILL
CUSHMAN,
REPORTER
FOR
% WISCONTEXT, A
PARTNER
PROJECT
% WITH
WISCONSIN PUBLIC% TELEVISION.
% HEY,
WILL.% >>
.
% HOW'S
IT
GOING?
% >>
GOOD.
% SO WHAT
WILL
YOUR
REPORTING BE
% LOOKING INTO
IT?
% >>
WELL,
AS
WE
SAW
IN
MARISA'S
% PIECE,
ONE OF
THE
MOST
% CONTENTIOUS THINGS
ABOUT
THESE
% LARGE
LIVESTOCK
FACILITIES IS
% THE
ODORS
THAT
CAN
EMANATE FROM
% THEM AND
WHAT
THAT
CAN
MEAN
FOR
% NEIGHBORS.
% SO
WE'RE
GOING
TO
DO A
DEEP
DIVE
% INTO
ODORS, EVERYTHING
ABOUT
% ODORS, THE SCIENCE
OF
ODORS,
% LIVESTOCK
ODORS,
HOW
THEY
DIFFER
% BETWEEN
LIVESTOCK AND
SOME OF
% THE SCIENCE
INVOLVED
IN
ODOR
% MANAGEMENT.%>>
GOOD
THING THIS
IS A
PRINTED
% PIECE,
RIGHT?
% BUT
THE DEPARTMENT
OF
AG
HAS
% WHAT'S
REGARDED
AS
CONTROVERSIAL
% UPDATES
CONCERNING
HOW
POTENTIAL
% ODORS FIGURE INTO THE
SITING
% APPLICATIONS AND
YOU'RE
LOOKING
% AT THOSE
UPDATES AS
WELL?
% >> THAT'S
TRUE.
% AND
YES.
% SO
RIGHT
NOW,
DATCP
USES AN
ODOR
% SCORE
SHEET,
WHERE
FOR AN
% APPLICANT
FOR ONE
OF
THESE
LARGE
% FACILITIES, THEY HAVE TO
FILL
% OUT
THE
SCORE
SHEET
AND A
WHOLE
% BUNCH
OF
PRACTICES
GET A
NUMBER
% AS
TO A
WHOLE
BUNCH
OF
O
THER
% THINGS RELATED TO
THE
FACILITY
% AND
ITS
LOCATION
AND
WHERE
% NEIGHBORS ARE.
% THEY ARE
LOOKING
TO
GO
AWAY
FRO
M
% THAT
WORKSHEET, WHICH
SOMEONE
A
T
% DATCP TOLD
ME
IS A
BIT
OF A
% BLACK
BOCK
AND
NOT
VERY MANY% PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT
GOES
INTO
% IT AND
THEY'RE
LOOKING
AT
GOING
% TO
MANDATORY
SETBACKS AS A
WAY
% TO
CONTROL
ODORS
FROM
THESE
% LARGE
FACILITIES.% >>
BECAUSE
REALLY
HOW
ARE
ODORS
% MEASURED?
% IT SEEMS
LIKE
THAT WOULD
BE
% REALLY
SUBJECTIVE.% >> YOU
KNOW,
IT CAN
BE.
% I'VE
SPOKEN T
O
SOME
RESEARCHERS,
% AND THERE
ARE A
WHOLE
BUNCH
OF
% DIFFERENT WAYS
THAT
ODORS CAN
BE
% DETECTED.
% THERE
ARE
DIFFERENT
TOOLS
AND
% METHODS.
% BUT
ONE
RESEARCHER
THAT
I
SPOKE
% TO FROM
MINNESOTA WHO
DOES A
LOT
% OF
LIVESTOCK
ODOR
WORK
SAID
THE
% GOLD
STANDARD IS
STILL
THE
HUMAN
% NOSE
AND THERE
ARE
VARIOUS
WAYS
% YOU
CAN
TRY TO
GET
LESS
% SUBJECTIVE
USING
THE
HUMAN
NOSE
% AS A STANDARD.
% WE'RE GOING TO
LOOK
INTO
THAT.% >>
YOU'RE ALSO
LOOKING
AT
% WISCONSIN'S RIGHT
TO
FARM
LAW.
% WHAT
IS
THAT
AND
HOW
DOES
IT
% FIGURE
INTO
CAFOs?
% >> YEAH.
% SO
THAT'S
ANOTHER
PIECE OF THE
% REPORTING THAT
WE'RE
DOING.
% THE RIGHT
TO
FARM
LAW
IS A LAW
% THAT I
THINK A LOT
OF
PEOPLE
% AREN'T VERY FAMILIAR
WITH.
% IT WAS
PASSED
IN WISCONSIN
IN
% THE
EARLY
1980s
AS
RIGHT
TO
% FARM
LAWS
ALL OVER THE
NATION
% WERE
PASSED
AROUND
THAT
TIME.
% WE'RE LOOKING
INTO
IT
BECAUSE
IT
% FIGURES
PROMINENTLY IN
SOME
OF
% THESE NEIGHBOR
DISPUTES.
% IT
REALLY
PROVIDES
FARMERS
WITH% A
LOT
OF
PROTECTION
AGAINST
% NUISANCE LAWTSZ
!
LAWSUITS TO
THE
POINT
% THAT
SOME
NEIGHBORS
SAY
IS
% OVERREACH.%>>
WE
LEAVE IT
THERE.
% WILL
CUSHMAN,
THANKS VERY
MUCH.% >>
THANK
YOU.% >>
STARTING
MONDAY,
YOU
CAN
SEE
% WILL'S
REPORTING
BY
GOING
TO
% wiscontext.org.
% >>
AS
PARTISANS
IN
WASHINGTON% DUKE IT
OUT
AND
DEMOCRATIC% PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATES
TRY
TO
% WIN
FAVOR ON
THE
DEBATE
STAGE,
% THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE
LOOKS
% AHEAD
TO
NEXT
SUMMER'S
% DEMOCRATIC
NATIONAL
CONTENTION
% AND
ALL
THAT
IT
BRINGS.
% IN
TONIGHT'S
CLOSER
LOOK,
WE
SAT
% DOWN WITH
DNC
HOST
COMMITTEE
% FINANCE
CHAIR
AND VICE
PRESIDENT% OF
THE MILWAUKEE
BUCKS, ALEX
% LASRY.
% WE
STARTED
BY
ASKING HOW MANY
% PEOPLE ARE EX ECT
!
EXPECTED
TO
DESCEND% ON MILWAUKEE FOR
THE
CONVENTION% NEXT
JULY.
% >>
THE
CONVENTION
WILL
HAVE
OVER
% 50,000
PEOPLE
THAT WILL
BE
% COMING
INTO
WISCONSIN.
% MANY
PEOPLE
WHO
PROBABLY HAVEN'T
% BEEN
HERE
BEFORE
OR
OTHERWISE
% WOULDN'T
BE
VISITING
WISCONSIN
% DURING THAT
SUMMER.
% SO THIS
IS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO
% HAVE A
LOT
OF
PEOPLE
WHO
% OTHERWISE WEREN'T
GOING
TO
COME
% HERE SEE
WISCONSIN
FOR
THE FIRST
% TIME
AND
GIVE
THEM A
FIRST
% IMPRESSION AND
TO
SHOW
THEM A
% REASON TO
COME
BACK
AND
MY
HOPE
% FOR
THIS
CONVENTION IS
THAT
WHAT
% WE'RE ABLE
TO
DO
IS
PUT
% WISCONSIN ON THE
MAP
IN A
WAY
% THAT
IT
OTHERWISE
COULDN'T BE.
% BECAUSE
NOT
ONLY
WILL WE
HAVE
% 50,000 PEOPLE
COMING
IN,
BUT
% WE'LL
HAVE
MILLIONS
OF
PEOPLE
% WATCHING
IT
ON
TV
AND
SEEING
HOW
% WISCONSIN
HOLDS
UP
UNDER
THE
% NATIONAL
SPOTLIGHT.
% SO THIS
IS MORE
THAN
JUST A
% POLITICAL CONVENTION.
% THIS
IS AN
OPPORTUNITY
TO
OUT
% MILWAUKEE
AS A
TOP
TIER
CITY
IN
% THE
COUNTRY.% >> WHAT
IS
THE
EXPECTED
ECONOMIC
% IMPACT?%>> SO
WE'RE
LOOKING
AT
ABOUT A
% $200
MILLION
PLUS
ECONOMIC
% IMPACT FOR
THE STATE OF
% WISCONSIN.
% THAT IS
BASED
ON
PREVIOUS
% CONVENTIONS.
% SO
PHILLY,
CHARLOTTE,
DENVER
% WERE
NORTH
OF
$200
MILLION.
% WE THINK
WE'LL
HAVE
SOMETHING
% NORTH
OF
THAT.
% BEYOND
THAT,
THOUGH,
THE
% IMMEDIATE
ECONOMIC
IMPACT
IS
% GREAT,
BARS,
RESTAURANTS,
% BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE
USED
TO
% HELP
PUT ON
THE
CONVENTION.
% THAT
WILL ALL
B
E
GREAT TO
HAVE% THAT
TYPE
OF
IMPACT.
% I
THINK
WHAT'S MORE
IMPORTANT,
% THOUGH, IS
WHAT
DO
YEARS
TWO,
% THREE AND
FOUR AFTER
THE
% CONVENTION LOOK
LIKE?
% ARE
WE STILL
SEEING AN
ECONOMIC
% IMPACT FROM
THE
CONVENTION?
% ARE WE
SEEING
MORE
CONVENTION
% BUSINESS?
% ARE WE
GETTING
SIMILAR
NATIONAL
% PROFILES
AND
STORIES
COMING
OUT
% ON
WISCONSIN
ON
CITIES
LIKE
% MADISON,
MILWAUKEE,
RACINE,
% KENOSHA?
% THOSE
ARE THE
TYP
E
OF
THINGS
% THAT YOU
CAN'T
REALLY
PUT A
% VALUE
ON,
WHICH
IS
WHY
I
THINK
% WHEN YOU
TALK
ABOUT AN
ECONOMIC
% IMPACT, YOU
NEED
TO
TALK
ABOUT
% IT MORE THAN
JUST
IN
DOLLAR
% TERMS.
% YOU
NEED
TO
TALK
ABOUT
IT IN
% TERMS OF
MEDIA
AND
WHAT
IT
CAN
% DO FOR THE FUTURE OF
THESE
% CITIES
AND
STATE.% >>
I'VE
SEEN
THAT
MILWAUKEE
IS
% DESCRIBED AS
THE
SMALLEST HOST
% CITY
FOR A
CONVENTION SINCE
% 1988.%WHAT
IS
THE
STATUS
RIGHT
NOW
AS
% TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE
ARE
% ENOUGH
HOTEL
ROOMS
EVEN
WITH
% NEARLY HALF OF
THE
DELEGATES
% GOING
INTO
ILLINOIS?
% >>
I
LED
THE
BID.
% WHEN WE PUT
IN
THE
BID,
YOU
HAD% TO BE
ABLE
TO
SHOW THA
T
YOU
HAD
% 20,000
HOTEL
ROOMS
W
ITHIN A
20
% TO
30-MINUTE DRIVE.
% THEY
WOULDN'T HAVE
CHOSEN
US
AS% A
FINALIST
AND
THEY
WOULDN'T
% HAVE
CHOSEN US
AS
THE
CITY
IF
W
E
% DIDN'T
MEET
THAT
QUALIFICATION.
% SO
FROM A
HOTEL
PERSPECTIVE, WE
% HAVE
ENOUGH
HOTEL
ROOMS TO
BE
% ABLE TO
HOS
T
THE
CONVENTION
% WITHOUT ANY
BEING
IN
ILLINOIS.
% WHAT
THEY'VE DONE
IS
THEY
% DECIDED
WAS
THEY
WANTED
TO
PUT A
% SELECT
NUMBER OF THE
TOTAL
HOTEL
% ROOMS,
SO
THEY
I
THINK
ONLY
USED
% ABOUT
3,000
OF
THE
ROOMS
IN
% ILLINOIS.%THERE ARE
STILL
GOING TO
BE
% ANOTHER
15,000
TO
20,000
ROOMS
% THAT THE
DNC
IS
GOING
TO
PLACE
% AND
PROBABLY ANOTHER
10,000
TO
% 15,000 MORE
ROOMS
THAT
PEOPLE
% JUST
COMING
INTO
WISCONSIN WILL
% NEED
TO
UTILIZE.
% SO
I'M
NOT
AS
WORRIED
ABOUT
% WHERE
PEOPLE ARE
STAYING,
% WHETHER
THEY'RE
STAYING
IN
% ILLINOIS
OR
MILWAUKEE
OR
IN
% WISCONSIN.
% I
THINK
IT'S
ACTUALLY
KIND
OF
% NEAT THAT
PEOPLE
ARE
WILLING
TO
% STAY IN
ROSEMONT, ILLINOIS TO
% COME TO
MILWAUKEE.
% AND
THAT'S
HOW
BAD
PEOPLE
WAN
T
% TO
COME
TO
MILWAUKEE, BECAUSE
% THE
DEMAND
IS
SO
HIGH TO
BE
NEAR
% MILWAUKEE THAT
THEY'RE
WILLING
% TO STAY
IN
ILLINOIS, AN HOUR
% AWAY, TO BE
ABLE
TO
COME
TO
THE
% CITY
TO
PARTICIPATE IN
THE
% CONVENTION.
% SO
I
THINK
THAT'S
GREAT.
% I COULDN'T
BE
MORE
THRILLED THAT
% PEOPLE WANT
TO
DO
THAT
AND
% LOOKING
FORWARD
TO
PEOPLE
MAKING
% THAT TRIP
MORE
AND
MORE AFTER
% THE
CONVENTION.% >>
YOU
CHAIRED AS
YOU
SAID
THE
% BID COMMITTEE
BUT
YOU
ALSO
HAD
% THE
NONPROFIT GROUP
RAISING
$70
% MILLION TO
SUPPORT THIS
CON
% VENG.
% HOW IS
THAT
EFFORT
GOING?
% >>
IT'S
GOING
REALLY
WELL.
% ONE OF
THE
THINGS
WE
MOST
WERE
% ABLE TO
SHOW
THE
DNR
WAS
THE
% COMMITMENT
THAT
THE STATE OF
% WISCONSIN, THE
BUSINESS
% COMMUNITY
HAD
TO
MAKING
SURE
% THAT THIS IS
SUCCESSFUL.
% SO WE
ACTUALLY
DOUBLED
THE
% FUND-RAISING THAT
CITIES
LIKE
% HOUSTON
AND
MIAMI
WERE
ABLE
TO% RAISE IN
THE
BID
PROCESS.
% WE
STARTED
WITH A
REALLY STRONG
% NUMBER.
% WE WERE
ABLE
TO
RAISE
$10
% MILLION
DURING
THE
BID
PROCESS.
% I THINK
WE'RE
NOW
WELL
ON
OUR
% WAY TO
GETTING
TO
THAT
$70
% MILLION MARK.
% WE'RE
OPENING UP
TO
NATIONAL
% SPONSORS AND
TALKING
TO
A
LOT
OF
% PEOPLE WHO
DON'T
LOOK
AT
THIS
AS% A
PARTISAN
EXERCISE,
BUT
THEY
% LOOK
AT
THIS
AS A
WAY
TO
REACH A
% BUNCH
OF
CUSTOMERS
WHO
ARE
GOING% TO BE
COMING
INTO
MILWAUKEE AND
% THEY LOOK
AT
IT
AS A
WAY
TO
HELP
% BUILD
UP A CITY AND
BE A PART
OF% A CITY
ENTERING A NEW
MARKET.% >>
WHAT IF
THE
EVENTUAL
NOMINEE
% BANS
CORPORATE
DONATIONS
TO
FUND
% THE
EVENT
AS
CANDIDATE
BERNIE
% SANDERS
HAS
SAID
HE
WOULD?
% >> WHAT
WE'VE
LOOKED
AT
I
S
WE'RE
% TRYING
TO
WORRY
ABOUT
RIGHT
NOW
% PUTTING ON
THE
CONVENTION.
% SO
WE'LL
TAKE
AND
WORK WITH
% WHOEVER THE
EVENTUAL
NOMINEE
IS.
% BUT RIGHT NOW
WE'RE
MOVING
% FORWARD
WITH
THE
BELIEF
THAT
THE
% DNC
HAS
TO
PAY
FOR
THE
% CONVENTION AND
WE'RE
MOVING
% FORWARD WITH
KIND OF
ALL
THE
% PEOPLE THAT
WE'VE
BEEN
TALKING
% TO AND
THAT
WE'VE BEEN ERK
% WITHING WITH.
% I
THINK
WHAT WE
ARE A
REALLY
% TRYING TO SHOW
IS
THE
HOST
% COMMITTEE IS A
NONPARTISAN
% ENTITY.%THIS
IS
NOT
THE
DNC
AND
THE
HOST
% COMMITTEE
ARE
TWO
SEPARATE
% ENTITIES AND
THE
HOST
COMMITTEE
% IS
RAISING
MONEY
NOT
FROM A
% PARTISAN
BASIS, BUT
ON A
% NONPARTISAN BASIS.
% AND THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT WE
ARE
% CONTINUING TO SHOW AND ARE
% CONTINUING TO PREACH
THAT
% MESSAGE.
% >>
AS
VOTERS
LOOK
AHEAD
TO
THE
% DAY
WHEN
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
% HAS A
SINGLE
NOMINEE
TO
RUN
% AGAINST,
THE
RUN-UP
TO
THAT
% BRINGS
US
DEBATE
STAGES
WITH A
% DOZEN
CANDIDATES.
% AND
MEANWHILE
STATE
POLITICS
% MIRRORS
WASHINGTON
IN
CONFLICT
% AND
CONSTERNATION.
% IN
TONIGHT'S INSIDE
LOOK, A
% CHECK-IN
WITH
FORMER
STATE
% SENATOR
AND
EMERITUS PROFESSOR% MORDECAI LEE.
% THANKS VERY MUCH
FOR
BEING
HERE.% >>
THANKS
FOR
INVITING
ME.
% >>
SO
FIRST, ON
THE
BIG
STAGE,
% NATIONAL POLITICS.
% YOU DESCRIBED
THIS
WEEK'S
% DEMOCRATIC DEBATE
AS
GOOD
NEWS
% FOR WISCONSIN.
% HOW
SO?
% >>
OUR
APRIL PRIMARY
SOMETIMES
% COMES SO LATE
IN
THE
PROCESS
% THAT EITHER
THE
DOMINATION
IS
% ESSENTIALLY
RAPPED UP
OR
IT'S
% ONLY DOWN
TO
TWO
CANDIDATES.
% THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME.
% I THINK
WHEN
YOU
LOOKED
AT
THE
% DEBATE, YOU
SAW
THAT THERE
ARE
% SEVERAL
LONG-DISTANCE
RUNNERS.
% THEY
WERE
MARATHON
RUNNERS
% EITHER BECAUSE
THEY'VE
GOT A
% GOOD
CAPABILITY OF
RAISING
MONEY
% OR
APPEALING
TO
CERTAIN
% DEMOGRAPHICS.
% SO, IN OTHER
WORDS,
SOM
E
PEOPLE
% WILL
DO
WEL
L
IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE
% AND
IOWA,
BUT
EVEN IF
THE LONG
% DISTANCE
RUNNERS
DON'T
COME
IN
% FIRST
OR
SECOND
OR
THIRD,
IF
% THEY'VE GOT THE
MONEY,
THEY'RE
% GOING TO
LAST A LONG
TIME.
% I THINK B
Y
THE
TIME
WE
GET
TO
% VOTING IN
APRIL IN
OUR
PRIMARY,% I THINK
WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE
%
FOUR,
FIVE,
SIX
CANDIDATES
ALL
% VIABLE AND IT
WILL
BE
MEANINGFUL
% FOR
PEOPLE
TO
VOTE
IN
THAT.
% >>
BUT
AREN'T
VOTERS
GETTING
% ANTSY
FOR
THE
FIELD TO
BE
% SIGNIFICANTLY
NARROWED?
% >>
NO.
% YOU WANT ME
HE
TO
ELABORATE
ON
% THAT.
% I
THINK
VOTERS LIKE
CHOICE.
% THE
THING
ABOUT
FOUR
OR
FIVE
OR
% SIX
CANDIDATES
IS
EACH ONE
OF
% THEM WILL
OPERATE A
NICHE
BASED
% ON
DEMOGRAPHICS,
ON
GEEING
!
!ING!
!
GEEING
!
!ING!
!
GEEING
ONFY
% OR
IDEOLOGY.
% PEOPLE SAY I'M
GOING
TO
VOTE
FOR
% SO AND
SO.
% CHOICE IS
ALWAYS A
GOOD
THING
% FOR
VOTERS.
% >>
LET'S
G
O
TO
STATE
POLITICS.
% YOU'VE
GOT
SOME
FASCINATING
% TAKES
ON SCOTT
FITZGERALD SES
'S
RUN
% FOR CONGRESS.
% WHAT DO YOU
THINK?
% >>
I
THINK
IT'S
REALLY
% IMPRESSIVE THAT
WHEN
THERE'S A
% VACANT
CONGRESSIONAL
SEAT,
ONE
% THAT
HASN'T BEEN
VACANT FOR
30,
% 40 YEARS, THAT
HE
ESSENTIALLY
% HAS
BECOME
THE
NOMINEE.
% THE SAME
HAPPENED
IN
PAUL
RYAN'S
% SEAT.
% THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY
IS
VERY
% WELL-ORGANIZED.
% THEY'VE
GOT A
MACHINE.
% SO IF
HE'S
NOW
THE DE
FACTO
% REPUBLICAN
NOMINEE,
QUESTION
IS
% WHAT DOES
HE
DO
WHILE
HE'S
% WAITING
UNTIL
THE
ELECTION?
% DOES
HE
BECOME
MORE
PARTISAN, SO
% IN WAUKESHA COUNTY
HE'S
REALLY
% MOBILIZING HIS
PLACE,
OR
DOES
HE
% WANT
TO
BECOME
SORT
OF
STATESMAN
% LIKE,
MORE
CONGRESSIONAL?
% MY
GUESS
IS
IT'S
GOING TO BE
THE
% FORMER RATHER THAN
THE
LATTER.
% IN OTHER
WORDS,
ALWAYS KEE
P
YOUR
% BASE IN
MIND.
% THAT'S
HOW
YOU
WIN
ELECTIONS.
% AND
SO
THAT
PROBABLY
MEANS
THAT
% FOR
THE
NEXT
YEAR
AND
FOR
ANY
% SPECIAL
SESSIONS
HE'LL
BE
SORT% OF
THE
SAME
OLD
FITZ.% >>
HOW
DIFFICULT
DO DONALD
% TRUMP'S TROUBLES
MAKE
IT
FOR% SCOTT
FITZGERALD TO
GO
THAT
UBER
% PARTISAN?%>> WELL,
I
THINK
IF
YOU'RE
% RUNNING
IN A
SENSENBRENNER
% DISTRICT, THAT IS
SO OVER
% WHELLINGLY
REPUBLICAN
THAT YOU
% WANT TO BE
SUPPORTIVE OF THE
% PRESIDENT BECAUSE THAT'S
WHAT
% THE BASE
WANTS.
% I CAN'T
IMAGINE
THAT
DISTRICT
% GOING
DEMOCRATIC.
% MAYBE IF
THERE'S A
NOAH'S
FLOOD,% A POLITICAL
FLOOD,
THAT
MAYBE A
% DEMOCRAT WOULD HAVE A
CHANCE.
% OTHERWISE
HE
DOESN'T HAVE
TO
% WORRY ABOUT
IT.
% >>
LET
ME
ABOUT
YOU
ABOUT
THE
% GOVERNOR'S VETO POWER.%WE
HAVE A
LAWSUIT
THAT
JUST
HIT
% THE
STATE SUPREME COURT
TO
LIMIT
% THE
GOVERNOR'S VETO
POWER.
% WE'VE
BEEN
DOWN
THIS
ROAD
% BEFORE, BUT
WHAT'S
YOUR
% PREDICTION
ABOUT
WHETHER
% GOVERNOR TONY EVERS'
KEEPS
HIS
% POWERFUL VETO
PEN?
% >>
I
THINK
IT'S
PRETTY LOW
% BECAUSE A
CONSTITUTIONAL
% AMENDMENT OR A DECISION BY
THE% SUPREME COURT
RIGHT
NOW
WOULD
% TEND TO
HAVE
NOT
MUCH
INFLUENCE% FOR THE
GOVERNOR.
% THE SUPREME
COURT
IS
5-2% CONSERVATIVE.
% A
CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENT, A% GOVERNOR
PLAYS
NO
ROLE.
% HE
CAN'T
VETO A
CONSTITUTIONAL% AMENDMENT.%SO
I
SUSPECT THAT
HE'S
GOING
TO
% LOSE BEFORE
THE
STATE SUPREME
% COURT.%>>
SO
THERE
GOES
THE
VETO
PEN.% >>
NOT
QUITE,
BUT IT
WILL
BE
% LIMITED.%>> ALL RIGHT.
% MORDECAI
LEE,
THANKS
VERY
MUCH
% FOR
JOINING
US.
% >>
THANK
YOU,
FREDERICA.
% >>
NOW
FOR AN
UPDATE ON
% WISCONSIN'S
U.S.
HOUSE
% ELECTIONS.
% TWO
DEMOCRATS HAVE
ENTERED
THE
% RACE
FOR
THE
7TH
CONGRESSIONAL
% DISTRICT,
WAUSAU
SCHOOL
BOARD
% PRESIDENT
AND
HO-CHUNK SUPREME
% COURT
JUSTICE TRICIA
ZUNKER, WHO
% SAYS
SHE'S
RUNNING TO
BE A
VOICE
% FOR THE
PEOPLE
OF
NORTHWEST
% WISCONSIN.
% BUSINESSMEN
AND
VIETNAM
VETERAN
% LAWRENCE
DALE
ALSO
ANNOUNCED HIS
% BID,
SAYING
HE'LL
BRING
% GOOD-PAYING JOBS
TO
THE
% DISTRICT.
% IN
THE
5TH
DISTRICT,
STATE
% SENATOR
MAJORITY
LEADER SCOTT
% FITZGERALD ANNOUNCED
THIS
WEEK
% THAT
FORMER
GOVERNOR
TOMMY
% THOMPSON
HAS
ENDORSED
HIM.
% REPRESENTATIVE
JIM
SENSENBRENNER
% IS NOT
SEEKING
REELECTION.
% AND
TODAY
GOVERNOR TONY
EVERS
% ANNOUNCED THE DATE
FOR
THE
% ELECTION
TO
FILL
SEAN
DUFFY'S
% SEAT.
% THAT WILL
BE A
MAY 12.
% THE
PRIMARY WILL
BE
I
N
FEBRUARY.
% I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
% HAVE A
GREAT
WEEKEND.% >> UND
IFING
!
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS
% PROVIDED, IN
PART,
BY
FRIENDS
OF
% WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.