% >>
I'M FREDERICA
FREYBERG.
% TONIGHT
ON "HERE AND
NOW,"
% SENATOR RON JOHNSON
IS HERE
TO
% TALK
ABOUT
TARIFFS
AND
% IMMIGRATION.
% THE
LATEST ON
THE
STATE
BUDGET
% FROM
DEMOCRAT EVAN
GOYKE
AND
% REPUBLICAN JOHN
NYGREN.
% AND
THE
IMPACT
THE
BUDGET COULD
% HAVE ON
THE
STATE
STEWARDSHIP% PROGRAM.
% IT'S "HERE AND NOW"
FOR
JUNE
14.
% >>
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND
NOW"
I
S
% PROVIDED, IN
PART,
M
Y
FRIENDS
OF
% WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.
% >>
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
THIS
% WEEK
POST
POANDZ
!
POST
POSED
TARIFFS
FROM
% MEXICO.
% MEANWHILE, THE
ACTING SECRETARY
% OF HOMELAND SECURITY SOUNDED
THE
% ALARM
ON
TUESDAY
BEFORE
THE
% JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
SETTING A
% 623%
INCREASE
IN
TOTAL LAW% ENFORCEMENT
ACTIONS
TAKEN
AT
THE
% SOUTHERN
BORDER
SINCE
MAY OF% LAST
YEAR.
% WISCONSIN
U.S.
SENATOR RON
% JOHNSON IS
CHAIR OF
THE
SENATE
% COMMITTEE
ON HOMELAND SECURITY
% AND HE
JOINS
US
NOW
FROM
% MILWAUKEE
AND,
SENATOR, THANKS
% VERY MUCH FOR
BEING
HERE.
% >>
WELL,
FREED
REEK
!
FREDERICA,
HAPPY TO BE
% HERE.%>>
THE
AGREEMENT
THE
PRESIDENT
% REACHED
WITH
MEXICO WOULD
HAVE
% THAT
COUNTRY D
O
MUCH
MORE
% ENFORCEMENT ACTION
A
T
ITS
OWN
% BOARDERS TO ON
CUT THE
FLOW
O
F
% MY GRANTS
COMING
HERE.
% WHAT CAN
YOU
TELL
US
ABOUT
THE
% AGREEMENT AND
WHETHER
YOU
THINK% IT WILL
WORK?
% >>
I
THINK
MULTIPLE
% ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE
BEEN
ASKING
% MEXICO TO DO
MORE
TO
STEM
THE
% FLOW
OF
MIGRANTS
FROM
CENTRAL
% AMERICAN
COMING
FROM
THEIR
% SOUTHERN
BORDER INTO
AMERICA.
% AND
SO
WHAT
THEY'RE
GOING
TO
DO
% IS
THEY'RE
GOING
TO
BASICALLY
% PLACE UP
TO
6,000
NATIONAL
GUARD
% TROOPS AT
THE
BORDER
TO
DETER
% FURTHER
MIGRATION, AS
WELL
AS
% ACCEPT
MORE OF
THE
CENTRAL
% AMERICANS THAT
HAVE
COME
IN
HERE
% CLAIMING
ASPY
!
ASYLUM,
ACCEPT
THEM
% BACK
INTO
MEXICO
WHILE THEY
HAVE
% THEIR
CLAIM
ADJUDICATED.
% WE HAVEN'T
FIXED
OUR
LAWS
THAT
% ONLY ALLOW
OUR
OFFICIALS
TO
HOLD
% FAMILY MEMBERS
FOR
ABOUT
20
% DAYS.
% IT'S
NOT
ENOUGH
TIME
IN
GENERAL.
% AND AS A RESULT
WE'RE
RELEASING
% THESE
FAMILY
UNITS
INTO
AMERICA,
% WHICH IS
CAUSING A
HUGE
% INCENTIVE FOR
MORE
TO
COME.
% THE BASIC NUMBERS
ARE
IN
2014% PRESIDENT OBAMA
DECLARED
IT A
% NATIONAL
--
HUMANITARIAN
CRISIS
% WHEN
ABOUT
120,000
UNPAY
% COMPANIED
!
UNACCOMPANIED
CHILDREN
CAME
IN.
% WE'RE
ALREADY
OVER
400,000 THIS
% YEAR.
% IN
THE
PACE
CONTINUES
IN
THE
% NEXT
FOUR
MONTHS
WE'LL
BE
OVER
% 800,000.
% HOPEFULLY THE
ACTIONS
THAT
% MEXICO
HAS
TAKEN
WILL
ACT
AS A
% DETEERNT
AND
!
DETERRENT AND
WE'LL
SEE
REDUCED
% NUMBERS.%>> DOES
THIS
ALLY
YOUR
CONCERNS
% ABOUT THIS
AGREEMENT
WITH
MEXICO
% NOW?
% >> IT
CERTAINLY
ALLAYS
THEM
% INDEFINITELY.
% I'M
NOT A BIG
FAN OF
TARIFFS.
% IT'S
FINE
WHEN
TARIFFS
ARE
USED
% AS LEVERAGE TO
GET
THE
% ATTENTION,
WHETHER
IT'S
OUR
% TRADING
PARTNERS, IN
THIS
CASE
% MEXICO IN
TERMS
OF
REDUCING THAT
% FLOW.
% TARIFFS IS
JUST A FANCY
NAME
FOR% A
TAX IMPOSED
ON
IMPORTS
IMPOSED
% ON AMERICAN
CONSUMERS.
% LONG-TERM
THEY'RE
HARMFUL
% ECONOMICALLY.
% BUT
THEY CAN
BE
USED
% BENEFICIALLY WHEN IT
GETS
THE
% ATTENTION OF PEOPLE
WE'RE
TRYING
% TO
NEGOTIATE A
BETTER DEAL
WITH.% >>
SO
D
O
YOU
SUPPORT
LEGISLATION
% REASSERTING
CONGRESS'S
AUTHORITY
% AFTER
TARIFFS?% >> YEAH.
% I'VE
BEEN
ORIGINAL
COSPONSOR
OF
% EVERY
BILL
THAT'S
BEEN
PROPOSED
% IN THE
SENATE.
% THIS
IS
AUTHORITY
THAT
CONGRESS
% GAVE
AWAY
BACK
IN
THE
GREAT
% DEPRESSION.
% AFTER
THE
TARIFFS CONGRESS
CAME
% TO THEIR
SENSES
AND
REALIZED% THAT
WAS
PRETTY
DAMAGING
% ECONOMICALLY BUT
THEY DIDN'T
% HAVE THE
COURAGE
TO
REPEAL
THE
% TARIFFS
THEMSELVES,
SO
THEY
GAVE
% THE
PRESIDENT THAT
AUTHORITY.
% SO THIS
IS
JUST ONE OF
MANY
% EXAMPLES
WHERE
CONGRESS
SIMPLY
% HASN'T
HAD
THE
COURAGE
TO
PASS
% LAWS
THEMSELVES
AND
SO
THEY
% SLUFF THAT
AUTHORITY
AND
% RESPONSIBILITY OFF
O
N
% EXECUTIVES.
% GENERALLY
PRESIDENTS ARE HAPPY
% TO
TAKE
ADDITIONAL
POWER
AND
% AUTHORITY.
% I
THINK
I
T'S
WELL
PAST
TIME
FOR
% CONGRESS
T
O
RECLAIM
THIS
% CONSTITUTIONAL
AUTHORITY
THAT% HAS BEEN
GIVEN
AWAY
TO
PAST
% PRESIDENTS.%>> ON ANOTHER M
ATTER,
FOR
HER
% PART, YOUR
COLLEAGUE ACROSS
THE
% AISLE,
DEMOCRATIC
U.S.
SENATOR% TAMMY BALDWIN HAS
WRITTEN
TO
THE
% PRESIDENT ASKING HIM
TO
RELEASE
% DETAILS
OF A
DEAL
HE
ANNOUNCED
% SAYING
MEXICO IS
GOING
TO
BUY
% LARGE
AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT
FROM
% THE U.S.
% WHAT DO YOU KNOW
ABOUT
THAT?
% >>
WELL,
I'M
NOT
INVOLVED
% SPECIFICALLY
IN
THOSE
% NEGOTIATIONS, SO I DON'T
HAVE
% ANY KNOWLEDGE OF
IT.
% I'M
COMPLETELY
SUPPORTIVE,
% THOUGH, OF THE
SENATE
AND
THE
% HOUSE
RATIFYING
THE
NEW
NAFTA,
% THE
USMCA
AGREEMENT.
% NAH AT
THAT
!
NAFTA
WAS
HIGHLY
BENEFICIAL
T
O
% WISCONSIN.
% MEXICO
I
S
OUR
LARGEST
EXPORT
% MARKET
FOR
WISCONSIN
CHEESE.
% IT'S
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
FOR
% WISCONSIN
THAT
WE
SET
UP
ALL
% THESE
VERY
COMPLEX SUPPLY
CHAINS% TO
HAVE AN
AGREEMENT IN
PLACE,
% WHETHER
IT'S
NAFTA
OR
THE
NEW
% USMCA.
% SO I
WOULD
CALL
ON
SENATOR
% BALDWIN
TO
CALL
ON
NANCY
PELOSI
% TO BRING THAT
UP
I
N
THE
HOUSE
SO% WE
CAN
RATIFY
THAT
AGREEMENT
FOR
% THE
BENEFIT
OF
WISCONSIN
FARMERS
% AND
MANUFACTURERS.% >> WHAT ARE
THE
CHANGING
WINDS
% ON
TARIFFS
AND
RETALIATORY
% TARIFFS
AND
TRADE
DOING
NOT
JUST
% TO FARM
MARKETS,
BUT
BUSINESS
% CERTAINTY MORE
BROADLY?% >>
WELL,
IT'S
CREATED
% INSTABILITY
AND
U
NCERTAINTY.
% THE
THING
THIS
ADMINISTRATION
% HAS
DONE
FOR
THE
ECONOMY
IS
WE
% STOPPED
ADDING
TO
THE
REGULATORY
% BURDEN,
WE
ENACTED A
MORE
% COMPETITIVE TAX SYSTEM.
% THAT
BROUGHT
MORE
OPTIMISM
INTO
% OUR ECONOMY.
% WHICH
IS
WHY
WE
GOT OUT OF
THE
% ECONOMIC
DOLDRUMS,
LESS
THAN
2%
% GROWTH.
% WE'VE
ACHIEVED MORE
THAN
3%
% GROWTH.
% THE
TRADE
WARS
HAVE
PRODUCED% YOUR HONOR
CERTAINTY.
% --%UNCERTAINTY.
% I
TALKED
TO
BUSINESS
PEOPLE
AND
% FARMERS IN
WISCONSIN.
% THEY REALLY
DO
SUPPORT
WHAT% PRESIDENT TRUMP IS
TRYING T
O
DO,
% ACHIEVE
FAIR
TREATMENT
BY
ALL
% OUR
TRADING
PARTNERS,
BUT
IN
% PARTICULAR
ADDRESSING
THE
ABUSES
% OF
CHINA,
THE
THEFT
OF
OUR
% INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
THROUGH
% CYBER
THEFT,
THROUGH
FORCED
% TECHNOLOGY
TRANSFERS.
% THEY
DO
SUPPORT
WHAT PRESIDENT
% TRUMP IS
TRYING
TO
ACCOMPLISH.
% IT'S
VERY
UNFORTUNATE
THAT
OUR
% TRADING PARTNERS
REQUIRE
THIS
% LEVEL
OF
ATTENTION-GETTING
TO
% COME
TO
THE
TABLE
IN
GOOD
FAITH
% AND
REALLY
DO A MORE
FAIR
TRADE
% DEAL
WITH
AMERICA.% >>
WITH
JUST
ABOUT A
MINUTE
LEFT
% AND BACK TO THE
MIGRATION LEVELS
% AT
OUR
BORDER,
144,000
MIGRANTS
% WERE
DETAINED
BY
THE
U.S.
LAST
% MONTH ALONE.
% IS
PART OF
THE
ANSWER
FOR
OUR
% FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT
TO
ADD
% IMMIGRATION JUDGES
TO
PROCESS
% ASYLUM CLAIMS
FASTER?
% >> THAT IS.
% WE ALSO
NEED
T
O
REFORM
THE
% REINTERPRETATION
OF
THAT
% AGREEMENT SO WE
CAN
DETAIN
% PEOPLE A LITTLE
LONGER
SO WE
% HAVE
ENOUGH TIME
TO ADD
JUDE
% CAILT THOSE
!
ADJUDICATETHOSE
CLAIMS.
% ONE DIMENSION IS
NOT
BEING
% TALKED ABOUT
I
S
THE HIEWSK
HUMAN
% TRAFFICKERS,
THE
FRAUDULENT
% FAMILIES.
% I DO
KNOW
WHEN WE
WERE DOWN
AT
% THE
BORDER WE WERE
TOLD
ABOUT A
% THREE-YEAR-OLD
!
!THREE-YEAR-OLD BOY THAT WAS LEFT
% IN A
HOT
TEXAS
FIELD
BY
HIS
% FRAUDULENT FIELD
WITH
NOTHING% MORE
THAN A
CONTACT
TELEPHONE
% NUMBER
WRITTEN ON
HIS
SANDAL.
% THAT'S A DIMENSION
WE'RE NOT
% TALKING
ABOUT.
% THIS
IS A
CRY
TIS.
% IT'S
-- CRY IS IS.
% IT'S A GROWING
PROBLEM.% >>
!
.>>
SENATOR RON
JOHNSON,
THANKS
% FOR
JOINING
US.
% IN
STATE
GOVERNMENT, BUDGET
% WRITERS
WRAPPED UP
THEIR
WORK ON
% THE
STATE
BUDGET.
% IT
NOW HEADS
TO
THE
FULL
% LEGISLATURE AND THEN
TO
THE
% GOVERNOR.
% IT
DIFFERS
FROM
WHAT GOVERNOR
% EVERS
PROPOSED.
% SCHOOLS WOULD
SEE A
$500
MILLION
% SPENDING
INCREASE.
% EVERS HAD
PROPOSED
$1.4
BILLION.
% FOR
THE
UW
BUDGET,
THE
GOP
% PROVISION GIVES
THE
SYSTEM
$58
% MILLION AS OPPOSED
TO
THE
$150
% MILLION
EVERS
PROPOSED.
% $1 BILLION
WAS
APPROVED IN
% CAPITAL
FUNDS
FOR
UW
BILLING
% PROJECTS.
% ON HEALTH
CARE,
REPUBLICANS
% REJECTED THE PLAN
TO
EXPAND
% MEDICAID
LEVERAGING AN
% ADDITIONAL
$1.6
BILLION I
N
% FEDERAL MONEY.
% THEY
APPROVED A
$588
MILLION
% HIKE
IN
STATE
FUNDS
FOR HEALTH% CARE
AND
RELATED
COSTS.
% AS
FOR
THE
TRANSPORTATION
% BUDGET,
REPUBLICANS
WOULD
SPEND
% $484
MILLION O
N
ROADS
AND
% HIGHWAYS.
% EVERS
WANTED AN INCREASE
IN
THE
% GAS
TAX
TO
GET
TO
HIS
$624
% MILLION.
% INSTEAD,
REPUBLICANS
HIKED
% REGISTRATION AND
TITLING
FEES.
% ON
TAXES,
THE
REPUBLICAN
PLAN
% WOULD TOTAL
ABOUT
$500
MILLION
% IN
INCOME
AND
PROPERTY
TAX
CUTS,
% REDUCING INCOME
TAXES
ABOUT
$75
% PER PERSON
THIS
YEAR
AND
$136
% PER
PERSON
I
N
2020.
% EVERS'
PLAN
WOULD
MEAN
ABOUT A
% $216
REDUCTION.
% AS
THE
PACKAGE HEADS
TO
THE
% LEGISLATURE, SOME
REPUBLICAN% STATE
SENATORS ARE
BALKING
AT
% THE
SPENDING
HIKES
THEIR
OWN
% PARTY
APPROVED IN
THE
PROCESS,
% CALLING
IT AN
EFFORT
TO
BUY% GOVERNOR
EVERS'
SUPPORT.% >>
I'M
WAITING
FOR
TUESDAY T
O
% MAKE ANY
KIND
OF
JUDGMENTS.
% OBVIOUSLY,
I'VE
BEEN
HAVING
% ONGOING DISCUSSION WITH
ALL
THE
% MEMBERS.
% I
KNOW
THAT
THE
FINANCE
TEAM
% ALSO HAS BEEN
TALKING
TO
MEMBERS
% ALONG
THE
WAY
WORKING WITH
THEM.
% SO, YOU
KNOW,
I'M
NOT
GOING TO
% JUMP
TO
ANY
CONCLUSIONS
ON
ANY
% ONE
INDIVIDUAL
SENATOR.
% AGAIN,
I
THINK
JUS
T
LIKE YOU
% HAVE
TO DO
AT
THE END
OF
ANY
% FINANCE
PROCESS,
IS
COME
% TOGETHER
AGAIN
AND
KIND
OF
START
% FROM
SCRATCH, RUN
THROUGH
THE
% DOCUMENT AND SEE
WHAT
THE
ISSUES
% MAY
BE.
% >>
AS
TO
WHETHER
THE
REPUBLICAN
% PLAN COULD
SEE
CHANGES
FROM
THE
% GOVERNOR'S VETO
PEN,
ASSEMBLY
% SPEAKER ROBIN
VOS
HAD
WARNED
THE
% BUDGET COULD BE
DELAYED
UNTIL
% OCTOBER IF EVERS
VETOES
THE
% WHOLE
THING.
% VOS
HAS
BACKED
OFF
THAT
FEAR
AT
% THIS
POINT.% >>
FIRST OF
ALL,
I
AM
NOT
% ACCEPTING THE
FACT
THAT GOVERNOR
% EVERS
IS
GOING
TO
VETO
THE
% BUDGET.
% I
THINK
THAT
IT'S
NEVER
BEEN
% DONE IN
OUR
STATE'S
HISTORY,
SO
% IT'S
VERY
UNLIKELY
WHEN WE
HAVE% A
BUDGET
THAT
FOCUSES ON
THE
% FOUR
PILLARS.
% FIX THE
ROADS.
% WE'RE DOING THAT.
% MAKE SURE WE
HAVE A
BUDGET
THAT
% CAN HELP
CHILDREN.
% HE
SAID
MAKE
SURE WE
HAVE
THE
% ABILITY TO TAKE
CARE OF
THE
MOST
% VULNERABLE.
% AND WE
HAVE
ENOUGH
RESOURCES
% LEFT
OVER
THAT
WE
PRIORITIZED A
% VERY
LARGE
TAX
CUT
THAT'S
GOING
% TO
HELP
E
VERY SINGLE
FAMILY
THAT
% PAYS
TAXES
IN
THE
STATE.% >>
CO-CHAIR OF
THE
JOINT
FINANCE
% COMMITTEE,
REPUBLICAN
REPRESENT% JOHN
NYGREN, JUST
WRAPPED
UP
HIS
% HEAVY BUDGET
LIFTING.
% HE JOINS
US
BY
PHONE.% >>
GOOD TO
BE WITH
YOU.
% >>
SO WHAT
IS
YOUR RESPONSE TO
% THE
CRITICISM
FROM
SOME
F
ELL
L
E
FELLOW
% REPUBLICANS
THAT
YOUR
BUDGET I
S
% TRYING
TO
BUY GOVERNOR
EVERS'S
% SUPPORT?%>>
WELL,
I
WOULDN'T
AGREE WITH
% THEM.
% I
THINK
THE
LEVEL
OF
BORROWING
% IS
THE
LOWEST
IT'S
BEEN
SINCE
% 2009.
% THE
INCREASE IN
SPENDING OVER
% THE BY
!
BIENNIUM
IS
3.8%,
WITHIN
THE
% RATE
OF
I
NFLATION.
% WE
DO LIVE
IN
SPLIT
GOVERNMENT.
% MAYBE
THAT'S A
LITTLE HIGHER
% THAN
WE
WOULD
LIKE.
% BUT WE DO
HAVE
TO
WORK
WITH A
% DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR AND
FOR
HIM TO
% BE
ABLE
TO
SIGN
THIS
BUDGET,% MEET SOME
OF
HIS
PRIORITIES.
% I THINK
WE'VE
DONE
THAT.
% HE
PROPOSED A
3.8%
INCREASE.
% WE'RE AROUND 3
AND
STILL MET A
% LOT
OF
THE
PRIORITIES OF
THE
% GOVERNOR AND THE
PEOPLE OF
THE
% STATE OF WISCONSIN.%>>
IF
SOMETHING HAD TO
BE
% CHANGED TO
GARNER THE
SUPPORT
OF
% ANY
DEFECTING ON
THE
SENATE
% SIDE, WHAT WOULD
THAT
BE?
% >>
I'M NOT
IN
THE
SENATE.
% I'M IN
THE
ASSEMBLY.
% THAT'S A
CONVERSATION
FOR
% SENATOR FITZGERALD.
% I
THINK
ONE
--
SOME OF
THE
% CONCERNS,
SOME OF
THE
COMMENTS
% THAT HAVE
BEEN
MADE HAS
BEEN
%
GOING
THROUGHOUT THE
PROCESS.
% WE'RE
NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING
AT
% THE
BUDGET
IN
TOTALITY.
% I
THINK THEY WERE
LOOKING
AT
THE
% BUDGET
VERSUS
THE
BILL,
WHICH
% HAD A HIGH LEVEL
OF
SPENDING, AS% I
SAID,
8
.3%.
% WE
MADE
THOSE
CHANGES.
% WE
TOOK
THINGS
OUT
AS
WE
WENT.
% THE
PERSPECTIVE
OF
SOME
OF
MY
% COLLEAGUES WHO WEREN'T
PAYING
AS
% MUCH
ATTENTION AS
T
HOSE
OF
US
ON
% JOINT
FINANCE,
WHEN
THEY
SEE
% WHERE
WE
GOT
TO,
I
THINK
THEY'RE
% GOING TO
B
E
SUPPORTIVE.% >>
GIVEN
WHAT YOU
WERE
% SUGGESTING ABOUT
TRIMS,
WHAT DO% YOU
KNOW
ABOUT
WHETHER
YOU
WILL
% GET THE
GOVERNOR'S SUPPORT?% >> WELL, WHEN
WE
LOOK
AT
% EDUCATION
FUNDING,
$500
MILLION,
% $204 PER
PUPIL, A
22%
INCREASE
% IN SPECIAL ED
FUNDING,
IT'S
THE
% LEVEL GOVERNOR EVERS
ASKED
FOR
% WHEN HE
WAS
DPI
SECRETARY.
% 204 IS
WHAT
H
E
CALLED A KID
% FRIENDLY
BUDGET TWO
YEARS
AGO.
% WE
MEET
THOSE
OBJECTIVES
WHEN WE
% ARE
ABLE
TO
PROVIDE
FOR
OUR
MOST
% VULNERABLE.
% WE
HAD
SOME
REAL
PROBLES.
% BECAUSE
OF
OUR
ECONOMY
IS
SO
% STRONG, WE
HAVE
ISSUES
WITH
% BEING
ABLE
T
O
PAY A
GOOD
ENOUGH
% WAGE TO
BE
ABLE TO
GET
PEOPLE
TO
% WORK IN OUR
NURSING
HOMES
AND
% PERSONAL
CARE
WORKERS
FOR
OUR
% ELDERLY
IN
THEIR
HOMES.
% WE
WERE
ABLE TO G
O
FURTHER
THAN
% HIM.
% SO I BELIEVE
IN A
LOT
OF
THESE
% CASES
BECAUSE
WE
SOLVED
THOSE
% PROBLEMS
AND
MET
THE
PRIORITIES
% NOT
ONLY
OF GOVERNOR
EVERS
I
N
% MANY
CASES,
BUT
THE
PEOPLE
OF
% WISCONSIN, I
THINK
HE
SHOULD
% SIGN
IT.
% >>
SO
WHEN
YOU'VE
SAID
THAT
THE
% BUDGET WAS
CAREFULLY
CRAFTED
TO
% AVOID
THE
GOVERNOR'S
VETO, IS
% THIS THE
KIND
OF
THING
YOU'RE
% TALKING
ABOUT?
% >>
I
THINK
WHAT
WE'RE
TALKING
% ABOUT
TO
AVOID
THE
VETO
IS YOU
% HAVE TO
BE
CAREFUL
WHAT
LANGUAGE
% YOU PUT
INTO
THE
BUDGET.
% THE
GOVERNOR
CAN
VETO
DOWN
% SPENDING.
% IT
CAN'T
VETO IT
UP.
% HE
HAS A
VERY
POWERFUL
LINE
ITEM
% VETO
WHERE
HE
CAN
CHANGE
W
HAT
% THE
INTENT
IS OF
THE
DIFFERENT
% PROVISIONS.
% SO WE
HAVE TO
BE VERY CAREFUL.
% WHAT I'M
REFERRING
TO
IS
WHEN
% WE'RE MEETING MANY
OF
HIS
% OBJECTIVES, MAYBE
IN A
DIFFERENT
% WAY,
YET
LIVING
WITHIN
THE
MEANS% OF THE PEOPLE O
F
WISCONSIN, I
% BELIEVE THAT
IT'S
NOT
ONLY A
% BUDGET
THAT WE
HAVE
BEEN
CAREFUL% ON
THE
VETOES,
BUT
WE'VE
ALSO
% BEEN UNDERSTANDING
THAT
WE
NOW
% LIVE
IN
SPLIT
GOVERNMENT.% >>
SO ON
THE
FLIP
SIDE,
HOW
% CAREFULLY
CRAFTED
WAS
IT
TO
% APIECE FISCAL
HAWKS?
% >>
WELL,
I
THINK
THAT
THAT'S
THE
% THINGS
I'VE
BEEN
ADDRESSING,% RATE
OF
INFLATION, YOU
KNOW,
% BORROWING IS
DOWN.
% ACTUALLY
USING
CASH
INFUSION,
% WHERE
POSSIBLE, TO
BE
ABLE
TO
% REDUCE
THE
RELIANCE ON
THE
TAX
% BURDEN.
% AND
THEN
ALSO
REALIZING
THAT
WE% DO
HAVE A
SIGNIFICANT
SURPLUS
SO
% LET'S
UTILIZE
THAT RATHER THAN
% RAISING
TAXES.
% LET'S USE
SOME
OF
THOSE
SURPLUS
% DOLLARS TO REDUCE THE
BURDEN ON
% THE
TAXPAYER.
% >>
HOW
DIFFERENT
WOULD
YOUR
% GOVERNOR HAVE
BEEN
IF GOVERNOR
% WALKER
WERE
STILL
GOVERNOR?
% WOULD YOU
HAVE
EVER
INCLUDED% TRANSPORTATION FEE
HIKES
OR
GON
E
% FOR
BIGGER
TAX
CUTS?
% >>
WE WOULD
HAVE
DEFINITELY
GONE
% FOR
BIGGER
TAX
CUTS.
% WE
GOT
TO
$560
MILLION
O
F
TAX
% CUTS.
% SO IF GOVERNOR
WALKER
WAS
STILL
% GOVERNOR, I
THINK
YOU
PROBABLY% WOULD HAVE SEEN
US
STILL
TRY TO
% GET
TO A
SOLUTION ON
% TRANSPORTATION,
AT
LEAST
FROM
% THE
ASSEMBLY
PERSPECTIVE.
% WE'VE
BEEN
TRYING TO
GET
THERE
% FOR
QUITE SOME
TIME.
% OUR
SENATE
COLLEAGUES
WEREN'T
% ALWAYS WITH US
ON
THAT.
% SO
I
THINK
WE WOULD
HAVE
TRIED.
% BUT I
THINK
THE
SOLUTION
WE
CAME
% UP
WITH,
ACTUALLY
INCREASING% ROAD
AIDS
FOR
OUR
TOWNS
AND
OUR
% VILLAGES
AND
OUR
CITIES
10%
AND
% THEN
ALSO
IN
WHAT
WE
CALL
LREP,
% WE
TRIPLED
THAT
AMOUNT TO BE
% ABLE TO
HELP
CATCH
UP.
% WE
KNOW
THERE'S
SOME
PENT-UP
% NEED
IN
THE
TRANSPORTATION
AREAS
% THROUGHOUT OUR
ENTIRE STATE.% >> ALL RIGHT.
% WE
LEAVE
IT
THERE.
% JOHN
NYGREN,
THANKS
VERY
MUCH
% AGAIN.%>> THANK
YOU VERY
MUCH.% >>
DEMOCRATS ON
THE
BUDGET
% COMMITTEE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE
% EVERS' BUDGET
FORCED
REPUBLICANS
% TO,
QUOTE,
MOVE
THE
NEEDLE
ON
% SPENDING, BUT
STILL
THEY
SAY
IT
% DOESN'T G
O
FAR
ENOUGH
TO
ADDRESS
% THE
GOVERNOR'S
PRIORITIES.
% DEMOCRATIC
REPRESENTATIVE EVAN% GOYKE JOINS U
S FROM
MILWAUKEE.
% THANKS VERY MUCH
FOR DOING
SO.
% >>
THANKS
FOR
HAVING
ME.% >>
SO
YOU
SAY
THAT
THE
% REPUBLICAN
PROPOSAL FALLS
SHORT.
% HOW
SO?
% >>
WELL, I
WANT
TO
FOCUS
ON
% THREE
PRIMARY
AREAS
AND
THAT'S% HEALTH
CARE,
EDUCATION
AND
% TRANSPORTATION.
% AND
JUST
BRIEFLY
ON
EACH,
ON% HEALTH
CARE, AN
IDEOLOGICAL
% DECISION NOT
TO
EXPAND
MEDICAID
% COST
THE
OPPORTUNITY
TO
SAVE
% $324
MILLION
IN
STATE
RESOURCES,% WHILE
LEVERAGING
$1.6
BILLION
IN
% NEW FEDERAL
FUNDING.
% THAT
CREATED
HOLES
IN
OTHER
% PARTS OF THE
BUDGET,
LIKE
% EDUCATION.
% SO
THE
SECOND AREA WHERE
THE
% REPUBLICAN
BUDGET FELL
SHORT
IS
% ON PUBLIC SCHOOL
FUNDING.
% AND
PARTICULARLY HOW
--
AND HOW
% MUCH
WE
FUND
SPECIAL
EDUCATION.
% AND
SO
THE
GOVERNOR
PROPOSED AN
% HISTORIC
INVESTMENT
IN
SPECIAL
% EDUCATION AND
REPUBLICANS CUT
% 83%
FROM
THE
GOVERNOR'S% PROPOSAL.
% AND
THEN
LASTLY
ON
% TRANSPORTATION, THE WAY
WE
FUND
% ROADS I
THINK
IS AN
IMBALANCE.
% WE SHOULD
USE
THE
GAS
TAX,
WHICH
% IS
CLOSER
TO A USER
FEE,
AND
GET
% ALL
OF
THOSE
OUT-OF-STATE
% DRIVERS
TO
HELP
PAY
FOR
OUR
% ROADS,
NOT
JUST
RELY
ON
OUR
% REGISTRATION FEES
ALSO.% >>
S
O
ALL
OF
THAT
SAID,
HOW
DO
% YOU
EXPECT
THE
GOVERNOR TO
% HANDLE THE
VERSION
THAT DOESN'T
% INCREASE
THE
GAS
TAX
OR
GREATLY
% INCREASE SPECIAL
EDUCATION
% FUNDING?%>>
I
THINK
IT'S A
CHALLENGE FOR
% THE
GOVERNOR.
% AND I WANT TO
WORK
WITH
HIS
TEAM
% AND
WITH
HIM
ON
WHAT
STEPS
% MOVING FORWARD
HE COULD USE.
% YOU
KNOW,
THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN
% HAS
ONE OF
THE
MOST
POWERFUL
% VETOES IN
THE
COUNTRY
AND
IT'S A
% UNIQUE
VETO.
% AND
SO I DON'T THINK
WE'RE
AT A
% POINT
IN
TIME
TODAY
AS WE
ARE
% TALKING WHERE WE
CAN
REALLY
SAY
% EXACTLY WHAT
THE
RIGHT
COURSE OF
% ACTION SHOULD BE
FOR
THE
% GOVERNOR.
% NOW,
ONE
OTHER
POINT
THAT I
WANT
% TO
MAKE,
IT'S
IMPORTANT TO
NOTE
% THAT
WHILE
JOINT
FINANCE
-- THE
% JOINT FINANCE
COMMITTEE IS
DONE,
% EACH
CHAMBER
MUST
AGREE ON
THE
% BUDGET
A
S
IT'S
WRITTEN.
% AND
THERE COULD
BE
FURTHER
% CHANGES MADE
BY
THE
SENATE
OR
% ASSEMBLY
MAJORITY
REPUBLICANS.% >>
HOW
WOULD
YOU
COMPARE
THIS
% REPUBLICAN BUDGET PROPOSAL
TO
% YEARS
PAST
WHEN
THE
MAJORITY
WAS
% WORKING
OFF
REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR% SCOTT
!
SCOTT WALKER'S PLAN?
% >> SO
IN
YOUR
INTRODUCTORY
% REMARKS, YOU
HIT
THE
NEEDLE.
% THERE'S
CLEARLY A RESPONSE
OR
% WHAT I
SAID
IN
MY
CLOSING
% REMARKS
YESTERDAY ON
THE
% COMMITTEE, THE
REPUBLICANS ARE
% TRYING TO
CATCH UP TO
THE
% GOVERNOR'S
LEADERSHIP
AND
HIS
% VISION.
% SO
THIS
BUDGET
THAT
THE
% REPUBLICANS HAVE
CRAFTED
SPENDS
% ABOUT
$4.1
BILLION
IN
ADDITIONAL
% SPENDING.
% THE
LAST
BUDGET
UNDER GOVERNOR
% WALKER
WAS
ABOUT
$2.2
BILLION.
% SO ALMOST
DOUBLE THE
LEVEL
OF
% SPENDING THAN
THE
PRIOR
% REPUBLICAN BUDGET.
% AND
I
THINK
THAT'S A
RESPONSE
TO% GOVERNOR
EVERS'S
WINNING
THE
% STATEWIDE
ELECTION ON
GOVERNOR,
% CALLING
FOR
THE
INCREASED
% INVESTMENTS THAT
WE'VE
BEEN
% DISCUSSING.%>> YOU
ALSO
SAID
WHILE YOU
WERE% ON
THE
COMMITTEE
THAT
THE
% REPUBLICAN BUDGET
WRITERS TRIED
% THEIR BEST.
% SO WHAT
MORE
CAN
YOU
REALLY
ASK?
% >>
WELL,
I
THINK
WE
DON'T
HAVE
% TO
DO
THINGS
IN A
CLOSED
ROOM
% WITH
ONLY
ONE
PARTY.
% THAT'S
HOW
THE
BUDGET
WAS
% WRITTEN
BY
THE
REPUBLICANS.
% THE
SENATE
AND
ASSEMBLY
% REPUBLICANS WOULD
GO
SOMEWHERE
% IN
THE
STATE
CAPITOL, THEY
WOULD
% CLOSE THE
DOOR
AND THEY WERE
% NEGOTIATING WITH
THEMSELVES.
% SO THAT WAS
THE
BEST THEY
COULD
% DO.
% BUT THERE ARE
TWO
PARTIES
IN
THE
% CAPITOL.
% THEY
COULD
REACH ACROSS
THE
% AISLE
AND
SEEK
DEMOCRATIC
VOTES
% AND
DEMOCRATIC
INPUT
TO
REACH A
% BIPARTISAN COMPROMISE.
% SO
WHEN
I
SAID
THEY
DID
THEIR
% BEST,
WHAT WE
COULD
DO
BETTER
IS
% TALK
T
O
ONE
ANOTHER
AND
FIND
% COMMON
GROUND,
ESPECIALLY
O
N
% THOSE
THREE
BIG
ITEMS
THAT
I'VE
% MENTIONED.%>>
WHAT
KINDS
OF
CONCERNS DO YOU% HAVE ABOUT
ANY
CHANGES
THAT% MIGHT BE MADE
IN
THE
% LEGISLATURE, THE
FULL
% LEGISLATURE?%>> I'M
WATCHING
THE
SENATE
% REPUBLICAN
CAUCUS
VERY
% CAREFULLY.
% SENATOR
STEVE
NASS
HAS
SAID
HE
% HAS PROBLEMS WITH
THE
OVERALL
% LEVEL OF
SPENDING.
% SENATOR
DAVE
CRAIG
HAS
SAID
THE
% SAME
THING, THAT
HE
HAS
GRAVE
% CONCERNS OVER THE LEVEL
OF
% SPENDING.
% IF A
NUMBER
OF
OTHER
SENATE
% REPUBLICANS
HAVE A
DISAGREEMENT% WITH THE
LEVEL
OF
S
PENDING
THAT
% COULD
RESULT
IN
MAJOR
CHANGES
% AND
POTENTIALLY
THROW OFF
THE
% ENTIRE BUDGET AS
WRITTEN.% >>
WE'LL
BE
WATCHING.
% REPRESENTATIVE
GOYKE,
THANKS
% VERY
MUCH
FOR
JOINING US.
% >> THANK
YOU
FOR
HAVING
ME.
% >>
MORE ON
THE
STATE
BUDGET
NOW.
% SPECIFICALLY,
ITS
IMPACT ON
THE
% STATE'S
LAND
PURCHASE
FUND KNOWN
% AS
THE
KNOWLES-NELSON
% STEWARDSHIP PROGRAM.
% MARKING ITS
30TH
ANNIVERSARY,
% THE PROGRAM
PROVIDES
DOLLARS
TO
% BUY LAND LIKE
THE
LAND
SEEN HERE
% IN DANE COUNTY
KNOWN
AS
THE
% CAPITAL
SPRINGS RECREATION
AREA.
% THE
STEWARDSHIP
FUND
ALSO
% ALLOWED
THE PURCHASE OF PARTS OF
% THE
ICE
AGE
TRAIL
ACROSS
% WISCONSIN AND
PROPERTIES THAT
% BECAME THE
HANK
AARON
TRAIL
THAT
% CONNECTS MILLER PARK WITH
% DOWNTOWN
MILWAUKEE.
% THE
PROGRAM
HAS AN
E
XPIRATION
% DATE
OF
JUNE,
2020.
% THAT'S
WHY GOVERNOR EVERS
SAYS
% HE
PROPOSED
EXTENDING THE
% PROGRAM
FOR
TWO
YEARS
WITH
% BORROWING THE AMOUNTS
TO
JUST
% OVER
$42
MILLION PER
YEAR.
% THIS
WEEK,
REPUBLICANS
GAVE
THE
% GOVERNOR
WHAT
HE
ORIGINALLY
% WANTED.
% EVERS
DID
CHANGE
COURSE,
SEEK
% AGO
TEN-YEAR EXTENSION FOR
THE
% PROGRAM,
ADDING MORE
THAN
$300
% MILLION IN
BONDING,
BUT THAT WAS
% VOTED
DOWN
ALONG
PARTY
LINES.
% JASON
STEIN
HAS
RESEARCHED
THE
% STEWARDSHIP PROGRAM IN
HIS
WORK
% WITH
THE
WISCONSIN
POLICY
FORUM.
% HE
JOINS
US
NOW
FROM
THE
STATE
% CAPITOL
AND,
JASON,
THANKS
VERY
% MUCH
FOR DOING
SO.
% >>
MY
PLEASURE.
% THANK
YOU.
% >>
SO,
AS
WE'VE
SAID,
YOU'VE
% DONE A
DEEP
DIVE ON
THE
% STEWARDSHIP PROGRAM I
N
% WISCONSIN.
% HOW MUCH LAN
D
IN THE STATE
IS
I
S
% IN
PUBLIC HANDS
BECAUSE OF THE
% PROGRAM?
% >>
WELL, MORE
THAN
800,000
ACRES
% IN
THE STATE OF WISCONSIN
HAD
% BEEN
PROTECTED EITHER
THROUGH AN
% OUTRIGHT
PURCHASE
OR
THROUGH A
% CONSERVATIONING
EASEMENT
BECAUSE% OF THE
STEWARDSHIP
PROGRAM OVER% THE LIFE OF THE
PROGRAM.% >>
SOME
CONSERVATIVE
LAWMAKERS,
% AS YOU
KNOW,
REALLY
TAKE% EXCEPTION TO
THE
BONDING
THAT
IT
% TIEKS
TO
!
TAKES
TO
ACQUIRE ALL
THAT
LAND.
% HOW
MUCH
DOES
IT
TAKE
IN
% BONDING?%>>
WELL,
YOU
LOOK
AT
WHAT
THE
% STATE HAS
MADE
IN
DEBT
PAYMENTS% OVER THE
LIFE OF
THE
PROGRAM,
% $865
MILLION,
AND
THERE'S MORE
% THAN
$700
MILLION IN
PRINCIPAL% AND
INTEREST
OUTSTANDING ON
% STEWARDSHIP BONDS.
% SO IT
IS A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
% MONEY WHEN
YOU
LOOK
AT
THE
% PROGRAM
OVER
ITS
LIFE.
% >>
WHAT'S
BEEN
THE
TREND
IN
% RECENT
YEARS
OF
SPENDING
ON
DNR
% LAND
PURCHASES?
% >>
SO WHAT
YOU
SEE
WHEN
YOU
LOOK
% AT
WHAT
THE
STEWARDSHIP
PROGRAM
% IS
ACTUALLY
SPENDING IS
THAT
THE
% CORE
STATE
LAND
PURCHASES
% PROGRAM
FOR THE DNR HAS
FALLEN
%
LAST YEAR TO ITS
LOWEST LEVEL
IN
% THE
PROGRAM'S
HISTORY,
AT
$2.9
%
MILLION.% SO THERE'S BEEN A BIG DECR
EASE% IN THAT.%AND
AT THE SAME TIME FOR THE% FIRST TI
ME LAST YEAR IT WAS NO% LONGER THE
LARGEST
SINGLE
% SPENDING
ITEM
FOR
STEWARDSHIP.
% INSTEAD, IT
WAS A
DEVELOPMENT
% CATEGORY INVOLVING PROJECTS ON%
PUBLIC
LAND.% >>
SO
PRESUMABLY THAT KIND
OF
% TREND
CONCERNS
CONSERVATIONISTS
% WHO
REALLY
APPLAUD AND
SUPPORT
% THIS
STEWARDSHIP
PROGRAM.% >>
SURE.
% ON
THE ONE
HAND, YOU
HAVE
% CRITICS
CONCERNED
ABOUT
THE
DEBT
% AND LAND
IN
GOVERNMENT
HANDS.
% AND ON
THE
OTHER
SIDE
YOU
SEE
% SOME
CONCERN
FROM
ADVOCATES
FOR
% THE
PROGRAM ON
THE
DECLINE
IN
% THE
PURCHASING
POWER
AND
SORT OF
% THE
COR
E
LAND
FUNCTION OF
THE
% PROGRAM OVER
RECENT
YEARS.% >>
WHERE
IS
MOST OF
THE
% STEWARDSHIP LAND
IN
WISCONSIN?
% >>
SO
MOST OF
THE
STEWARDSHIP% LAND THAT
YOU
SEE
PURCHASED
IS
% IN
NORTHERN WISCONSIN
AND
THOSE
% NORTHERN WISCONSIN
COUNTIES
% WHERE AS
MUCH
AS
50%
OR
MORE OF
% THE LAND CAN
BE
HELD
BY
THE
% STATE, LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS, MOSTLY
% COUNTIES
AND
THE
FEDERAL
% GOVERNMENT.
% BUT YOU
DO
SEE
SOME,
IN
DOLLAR
% AMOUNTS,
LARGE
AMOUNTS BEING% SPENT
IN SOUTHERN WISCONSIN IN
% COUNTIES LIKE
DANE AS
WELL
AS
% WAUKESHA.%>>
NOW,
IT
TAKES
THAT
LAND OFF
% THE
TAX
ROLLS,
THOUGH, BUT
THEN
% THE STATE MAKES
UP
FOR
IT?
% >>
CORRECT.
% SO
BECAUSE
STEWARDSHIP
LAND% BECOMES PUBLIC,
YOU
NO
LONGER
% HAVE A
PRIVATE
OWNER
THAT'S
% PAYING PROPERTY
TAXES
TO
LOCAL
% GOVERNMENTS
LIKE
TOWNS,
SCHOOLS
% AND
COUNTIES.
% AT THE SAME
TIME,
THE
STATE
DOES
% MAKE PAYMENTS
TO
LOCAL
% GOVERNMENTS
TO
COMPENSATE THEM
% FOR
THAT
LOST
PROPERTY
TAX
% REVENUE,
ABOUT
$14
MILLION LAST
% YEAR.%>>
SO
HOW
DOES
WISCONSIN COMPARE
% TO
OTHER
STATES
WHEN
IT
COMES
TO
% LAND
PURCHASES
FOR
PUBLIC
USE?
%
>>
SURE.
%
SO WISCONSIN
STEWARDSHIP
PROGRAM
% IS UNIQUE
I
N
THAT IT
IS
LARGER
% THAN
MOST
OTHER
PROGRAMS I
N
THE
% MIDWEST,
THAT
IT
GROUPS
TOGETHER
% DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS
IN
ONE
% PROGRAM
THAT
MAY
BE
SPLIT
UP
% AMONG DIFFERENT PROGRAMS
IN
% OTHER STATES.%YOU
KNOW, AT THE SAME
TIME,
% THERE'S
ALSO A
COMMITMENT
IN
% OTHER
STATES
TO
DO
PROGRAMS LIKE
% STEWARDSHIP.
% SOME
STATES
USE
BORROWING
TO
% FUND
THOSE
PURCHASES
AND
% PROJECTS, LIKE WISCONSIN DOES.
% AND
THEN
SOME
OTHER
STATES
HAVE
% DEDICATED
SOURCES
OF
REVENUE,
% WHETHER
IT'S
SALES
TAX
DOLLARS
% OR DOLLARS
ASSOCIATED
WITH
% MINERAL
RIGHTS,
THINGS
LIKE
% THAT.%>>
BUT,
AGAIN,
JOINT
FINANCE
% JUST
EXTENDED
THIS
FOR
TWO
% YEARS,
PRESUMABLY THAT
STICKS IN
% THE LARGER
BUDGET.
% >>
RIGHT
.
% I
MEAN,
GIVEN
THAT
BOTH
THE
% GOVERNOR
AND
JOINT
FINANCE
% PROPOSED A
TWO-YEAR
EXTENSION OF% THE
PROGRAM, YOU
WOULD
EXPECT
% THAT
TO STICK
IN
THE
STATE
% BUDGET AS LONG AS THE
STATE
% BUDGET
MOVES
FORWARD
WITHOUT A% HITCH.
% AND
SO
I
THINK
THAT
MEANS
THAT
% THIS
PROGRAM
WILL
SORT
OF REMAIN
% IN
THE
PUBLIC
DISCUSSION OVER% THE NEXT
TWO
YEARS
AS
WE
TALK
% ABOUT,
OKAY,
WHAT
COMES
NEXT
% AFTER
THAT.% >>
RIGHT.
% EXACTLY.%ALL
RIGHT.
% JASON
STEIN, THANKS
VERY
MUCH.
% >>
THANK
YOU
FOR
HAVING ME.
% MY
PLEASURE,
FREDERICA.% >> THAT I
S
OUR
PROGRAM
FOR
% TONIGHT.
% I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
% HAVE A
GREAT
WEEKEND.
% >>
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND
NOW" I
S
% PROVIDED, IN
PART,
BY
FRIENDS