% >> PRESENTATION OF "HERE AND
% NOW" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE
% ANIMAL DENTAL CENTER OF
% MILWAUKEE AND OSHKOSH, A
% VETERINARY SPECIALISTS WORKING
% WITH PET OWNERS AND FAMILY
% VETERINARIANS THROUGHOUT
% WISCONSIN, PROVIDING CARE FOR
% ORAL DISEASE AND DENTAL PROBLEMS
% FOR SMALL COMPANION ANIMALS.
% ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR "HERE AND%NOW" IS PROVIDED BY THE LE
% PHILLIPS FAMILY FOUNDATION.
% >> I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
% TONIGHT ON "HERE AND NOW," THE
% DEBATE OVER WHO SHOULD HAVE THE
% POWER TO HIRE AND FIRE OUR
% STATE'S SECRETARY OF NATURAL %RESOURCES.
% ALSO TONIGHT, ALARMING NEW
% STATISTICS REGARDING SUICIDE IN
% WISCONSIN.
% WE'LL TELL YOU THE TOP 10
% HEALTHY
COUNTIES
IN
WISCONSIN
% AND PETER
LEIDY
HAS
A
N
EW
S
ONG
% ABOUT LOVE AND
PAYDAY
LOANS.
% FIRST, WHO
SHOULD
P
ICK
THE
DNR
% SECRETARY?%LAST YEAR LEGISLATORS
DECIDED % THAT THE
DNR
BOARD
S
HOULD.
% AND THAT IT
SHOULD HAVE
FIRING
% POWER, TOO.
% SO
THEY
PASSED A
L
AW
THAT
SAID
% SO
AND
S
ENT
IT TO
GOLF
DOYLE.
% DOYLE
VETOED
IT.
% NEXT WEEK, THE
ASSEMBLY WILL
% TAKE A VOTE
TO
OVERRIDE
THE
% VETO.
% THEY
WILL TAKE
OVERRIDE
VOTES
% FROM
2/3'S
OF
THE
MEMBERS.% WE'RE
JOINED
IN
MADISON
BY
% GEORGE
MEYER.
% WELCOME.
% >> GOOD TO
SEE
YOU.
% >> GREAT TO
BE
HERE.
% >> FOR
YOU,
GEORGE.
% FIRST,
HAVING
SERVED
BOTH
WAYS,
% WHY DO YOU
THINK
THE
DNR
BOARD
% SHOULD APPOINT
THE
SECRETARY?
% >> THERE'S SEVERAL
REASONS.
% THERE'S BEEN A
REVOLVING
DOOR OF
% SECRETARIES.%EVERY THREE YEARS WE HAVE A
NEW
% SECRETARY.%THE LAST COUPLE
SECRETARIES HAVE
% HAD NO EXPERIENCE
IN
NATURAL
% RESOURCE
MANAGEMENT.
% AND WE
HAVE SEEN
SITUATIONS
% WHERE THERE'S
SOME
SERIOUS
% POLITICAL
DIRECTION INTO
% DECISION-MAKING.%>> I WANT TO GET
BACK
TO
ONE
OF
% THOSE POINTS ON NO
EXPERIENCE.
% BUT
NOW,
YOU
SERVED
AS
% GOVERNOR-APPOINTED
SECRETARY.
% WERE YOU
POLITICALLY
MOTIVATED
% WHEN YOU WERE THE
SECRETARY?
% >> I WAS IN
A
TRANSITION
% SITUATION.
% I WAS FIRST A
POINTED
BY
THE
% BOARD AND GOVERNOR
THOMPSON
% APPOINTED ME FOR TWO
TERMS.
% WE
HAD
-
WHEN HE
RE-APPOINTED
% ME, WE
SAT DOWN AND
THERE WAS AN
% AGREEMENT THAT
I
WOULD
FUN
CTION % LIKE I
HAD
AS
A
BOARD-APPOINTED
% SECRETARY.%THAT
WAS
AN
AGREEMENT.
% THINGS HAVE
CHANGED
SINCE
THEN.% >>
NOW,
TONY
E
ARL C
AME
IN.
% HE DID
NOT
HAVE
APPRECIABLE KIND
% OF
ENVIRONMENTAL
EXPERIENCE,
DID
% HE?
% >>
HE
DID.
% HE WAS
BOARD
APPOINTED
% SECRETARY.
% >> AND
REPRESENTATIVE Le
MAHIEU,
% TELL US WHERE YOU
STAND
ON
THIS
% POSITION.%>> AS YOU
STARTED IN THE
% INTRODUCTION,
I'M
OPPOSED
TO THE
% CHANGE
THAT
--
ONE
OF
THE
MAIN
% REASONS FOR THE
CHANGE IS
WE
% NEED TO
TAKE
POLITICS
OUT
OF
THE
% PROCESS.%THE BILL
THAT
THE
GOVERNOR
% VETOED
ACTUALLY PUTS
POLITICS
% BACK
IN.
% THE
ORIGINAL BILL
GIVES
THE
DNR
% BOARD THE
AUTHORITY TO
MAKE
THE
% APPOINTMENT BUT THEN
THE
SENATE
% AMENDED IT TO
ADD
SENATE
% APPROVAL.%SO WHAT WE DID IS
WE
TOOK
THE
% POWER, THE
POLITICAL
POWER,
AWAY
% FROM THE MOST
POWERFULLY
ELECTED
% OFFICIAL IN THE
STATE
AND
GAVE
% TO IT THE
SECOND
MOST
POWERFUL, % THE SENATE MAJORITY
LEADER
WHO
% CONTROLS THE CALENDAR.
% WE PUT THE
POLITICS BACK
IN.
% >>
DOESN'T
THE
GOVERNOR
APPOINT
% THE MEMBERS OF
THE
DNR
BOARD
% ANYWAY?%>>
YES,
HE
DOES.
% THAT'S ANOTHER ARGUMENT THAT
-
% WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT
THE
OVERRIDE
% AND WHAT WE'RE
OVERRIDING
RIGHT
% NOW.%BUT
YES,
THE
GOVERNOR
DOES
% APPOINT THE BOARD
A
NYWAY AND
% THAT --
SO
THE
PRESSURE WOULD
BE
% ON THE
BOARD
TO
APPOINT
THE
% GOVERNOR'S PERSON ANYWAY.
% >>
GEORGE,
GO
AHEAD.
% >> THE
IMPORTANCE OF
HAV
ING THE
% BOARD IS IN
F
ACT
Y
OU
HAVE
SOME
% INSULATION ON
DAY-TO-DAY
% OPERATIONS SO YOU
DON'T
HAVE
% POLITICAL
INTERVENTION.
% SECRETARY
HASSETT
W
AS
FIRED
FOR
% TAKING
ENFORCEMENT
ACTION.
% THAT
WOULDN'T
HAPPEN
UNDER
A
% BOARD-APPOINTED SYSTEM.%IF I COULD
ADDRESS
DAN'S
% COMMENTS ABOUT SENATE
% CONFIRMATION.%THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE
ON
% HAVING
THE
SECRETARY
TO
CONFIRM
% ONCE EVERY
FOUR
YEARS
IN
TER
MS
% OF
POLITICAL
INVOLVEMENT AND THE
% SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A
% GOVERNOR'S OFFICE
CONTACTING
THE
% SECRETARY AND HIS
STAFF
ON
A
% DAILY BASIS
M
AKING
POLITICAL
% DECISIONS.%>>
LET
ME
SAY
ON
THE
SCOTT
% HACKETT SITUATION
SAYING
PEOPLE
% TEND TO LINK
HIS
DEPARTURE WITH
% POLITICS TOO
CLOSELY.
% I
WANT
TO
SAY THAT BEFORE
I
M
OVE
% BOTH
OF
YOU
WHAT
THE
GOVERNOR
% TELLS US
ON THIS.
% THE GOVERNOR GAVE
A
STATEMENT
% TODAY WHERE HE SAYS THE
PEOPLE
% IN NATURAL
RESOURCES OF
% WISCONSIN ARE BEST
SERVED WITH A
% SECRETARY
APPOINTED BY
THE
% GOVERNOR ENSURING
A
DIRECT
LINE % OF
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
CITIZENS
% CONCERNED ABOUT NATURAL
% RESOURCES.%WE HAVE UNDERTAKEN
SIGNIFICANT
% MEASURES TO IMPROVE OUR
% ENVIRONMENT
MEASURES THAT COULD
% NOT HAVE BEEN
ACHIEVED BY
A
% BOARD-APPOINTED
SECRETARY
ALONE.
% WE HAVE TAKEN
THE
MOST
EFFECTIVE
% STEPS
TO
STREAMLINE
REGU
LATIONS % WHILE
MAINTAINING HIGH
% STANDARDS.
% TO GO
BACK
TO
THE
O
LD
% BUREAUCRACY WOULD GO
BACKWARDS.
% >> AND THE
GOVERNOR, I
SUPPORTED% HIS SYSTEM FOR
14
YEARS.
% SO IT'S BEEN
A
VERY LIGHT
% CHANGE.%THERE'S A BOOM
IN
JOB
CREATION
% IN
THE
1980s
AND
1990s
UNDER
A
% BOARD-APPOINTED
SECRETARY.% THE MAJOR
PIECES
OF
% ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY IN THIS
% STATE ARE
CREATED
WHEN THERE'S
% A
--
OR
A
SECRETARY
WORKING WITH
% A
GOVERNOR.
% AS FAR AS
POLITICAL
% INTERFERENCE, SENATOR HACKETT
% HAS TOLD
SE
VERAL OF
US
WHAT
HAS
% HAPPENED IN TERMS OF
HIS
BEING
% TERMINATED FOR
TAKING
% INAPPROPRIATE
ENFORCEMENT
% ACTION.%>> AND REPRESENTATIVE LeMAHIEU, %WHAT DOES THE GOVERNOR SAY ABOUT%THIS ACCOUNTABILITY
BACK
TO
% DECOLLECTED
GOVERNOR?% >> THE
COMMENT
THAT
HE
MADE
THAT
% I'D
LIKE
TO
COMMENT ON
IS
THE
% JOB
CREATION.
% WE HAVE A
DNR
BOARD THROUGH THE
% REGULATORY
PROCESS.
% IT
MAKING IT
HARD
FOR
BUSINESSES% TO
CREATE
JOBS.
% WE HAVE A N
EW
BOARD
CHA
IRMAN % THAT IS A
FORMER
MEMBER
AND
% LEADER OF THE
SIERRA
CLUB.
% I DON'T
SEE A
LOT OF BRIGHT
% FUTURE FOR
JOB
CREATION IF
WE
% CONTINUE DOWN
THE
ROAD
OF
% OVERREGULATING
BUSINESSES % THROUGH THE PROCESS
OF
DNR.
% >> WHAT ABOUT THE
STREAMLINING % OF
REGULATIONS, WHICH I
K
NOW
WAS
% IMPLEMENTED.%THAT DIDN'T HELP?
% >>
IT
HELPS
SOMEWHAT BUT
WE
% STILL HAVE THE
REGULATIONS THAT
% ARE
TAKING MUCH
LONGER
FOR
A
% BUSINESS TO ADD
A
NEW
LINE OF
% EQUIPMENT IN OTHER
STATES.
% IN SOME
CASES, IT'S
EASIER TO
% MOVE
YOUR PLANT IN
OTHER
STATES
% INSTEAD
OF
ADDING
O
N
IN
% WISCONSIN.%>> AND REPRESENTATIVE Le
MAHIEU,
% EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T LIKE
% POLITICS ON THE PROCESS,
HOW
DO % YOU EXPECT
TO V
OTE ON
THE
% OVERRIDE?%>> I'M
GOING TO
VOTE
AGAINST
THE
% OVERRIDE.
% YOU'RE VOTING
-- I
WILL
SUPPORT % THE GOVERNOR ON THE VETO
OF
THIS
% BILL.%>>
GEORGE,
THIS IS
SOMEWHAT OF
% AN
UPHILL
FIGHT TO GET
THE
% OVERRIDE BECAUSE
THERE WEREN'T
% THAT MANY
VOTES
FOR
IT IN
THE
% FIRST PLACE.
% HOW MANY DO YOU THINK YOU H
AVE
% TO HAVE?
% >>
WELL,
WE
NEED
A
2/3s
VOTE.
% IT'S
GOING TO
BE
CLOSE.
% WE'RE
ALMOST
AT
2/3s
BEFORE.
% SO WE'RE VERY
CLOSE.% >> YOU HAVE A COUPLE AT
LEAST.
% >> AND THE
VOTE ON
THE
B
ILL
THAT
% THE GOVERNOR
VETOED
WAS
49-47
IN
% THE
ASSEMBLY.
% WHEN THE
M
INOR
AMENDMENT THAT
% GEORGE TALKS
ABOUT,
WENT
UP F
ROM
% 61
POSITIVE
TO
49
POSITIVE.% >> WE HAVE
TO
LEAVE
IT
THERE.
% THANKS.%>> THANK
YOU.
% >> LAST WE
EK
WE
TOLD
YOU
HOW
% GREATER FUEL
EFFICIENCY HAS LED
% TO
THE
SHORTAGE IN
THE
GAS
TAX
% THAT PAYS
FOR
THE
STATES
O
LDER
% ROADS.%AS POTHOLE SEASON
NEARS,
THE
% IDEA IS HOW
TO
FIND
THE
PROBLEM,% THIS IS OUR
HACKETT
REPORT.
% THERE'S A
DISCONNECT OVER
THE
% ROADS THAT
CONNECT
US.
% >> LAST WEEK
WE
TOLD
YOU
A
BOUT
% WORK ON THE ZOO
INTERCHANGE IN
% MILWAUKEE.%BECAUSE SEVERAL OF THE ZOO'S
% BRIDGES
ARE
DANGEROUSLY
DECAYED.
% THE
WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF
% TRANSPORTATION IS IN THE MIDST
% OF
A
$15.3
MILL
ION EMERGENCY
% PROJECT TO
REPLACE
THEM.
% >> NOT
SOMETHING
WE
LOOK
FORWARD
% TO
DOING
OBVIOUSLY.
% IN
THIS
CASE,
THIS
IS
AN
% EMERGENCY BRIDGE
REPLACEMENT.
% WE
ALWAYS W
OULD
LIKE
TO
HOPE
% THAT THINGS, THE
DETERIORATION
% FOR LARGE
INTERCHANGES WOULD
BE
% RIGHT WHEN WE
REBUILD.% >> BUT THIS TIME
THE
TIMING
% DIDN'T WORK
OUT.
% WHEN
THE ENTIRE
INTERCHANGE IS
% REBUILT, WHICH IS
SCHEDULED
FOR % THE
NOT
TOO DISTANT
FUTURE,
THE
% BRIDGES WILL BE
REPLACE.
% EVEN IF THE
STATE
HAD
THE
MONEY
% TO DO THE
WHOLE
P
ROJECT
NOW, THE
% PLANS JUST AREN'T
READY.
% BUT
CRITICS
OF
THE
STATE'S
% HIGHWAY HABIT SAY THE
MONEY
FOR
% THE ZOO WOULD
HAVE
BEEN
THERE
% TODAY
IF THE DOT
HADN'T
% OVERBUILT
OTHER
PROJECTS
LIKE
% THE MARQUETTE
INTERCHANGE NEAR
% DOWNTOWN.%>> IT'S KINDS OF
LIKE
WANTING TO% LOSE WEIGHT BUT
NOT
WANTING TO
% GO ON A
DIET
OR
EXERCISE.
% SOMEHOW, SOMETHING WILL HAVE THE
% MAGIC PILL FOR
US.% >> WHY
IS
THAT?
% >> IT'S THE
POLITICAL
WILL.
% I
MEAN,
WE'LL
LET
SOMEBODY ELSE
% RAISE THE
TAXES AND LET
THEM
% TAKE THE
HEAT.
% SO YOU
GET
SOMEBODY IN
THE
STATE
% LEGISLATURE
SAYING WE'RE NOT
% GOING TO RAISE THE
TAXES.
% THAT'S UP TO
CONG
RESS.% CONGRESS
IS
SAYING
WE'RE
NOT
TO
% TO
RAISE
TAXES, THIS
IS
A
LOCAL
% PROBLEMS.%>> BUT SEVERAL LEGISLATORS ARE %TAKING A LOOK AT
HOW
WE
PAY
FOR
% HIGHWAYS OR AT LEAST ASK THE %LEGISLATIVE
COUNCIL
TO
DO
IT.
% SENATOR JIM
FROM
WAUWATOSA
KNOWS% THE
OPTIONS
ARE
FEW.
% >>
STATES
SHOULD
CONSIDER THE
% GAS
TAX.
% JUST A
STRAIGHT
UP
GAS
TAX
% INCREASE WILL BE AN
UNPOP
ULAR % THING AS
WELL.
% THE
MEANTIME,
I THINK
TOLLS
--
% FRANKLY FOR ME
FOR THIS
% LEGISLATOR, IT'S
SOMETHING THAT % I'D
CONSIDER.
% >> ONE
THING TO DO IS
TAKE
% SERIOUS
CONSIDERATION TO
TOLL
% ROADS. %>> REPRESENTATIVE TOWNSEND
SAYS
% THE STATE SHOULD ALSO
EXPLORE
A
% MILEAGE BASED TAX
USING
% GPS-BASED
SYSTEMS.
% THINK
OF
YOUR
ELECTRONIC
TOLLWAY
% PASS
COMBINED
WITH
YOUR
% NAVIGATION
SYSTEM.% >> WHEN I READ,
IF YOU
REALLY
% WANT TO
IMPLEMENT
THIS,
MAYBE
% YOU CAN
ABOLISH
THE
FUEL
TAX
ALL
% TOGETHER,
PAY
BASED
UPON
MILES.
% AND YOU
COULD
ALSO
VERY
EASILY
% TIE THAT IN
IN
TERMS
OF
THE
% VEHICLE.%>> AND NOT
EVERYONE
AGREES
THE
% STATE NEEDS
M
ORE
MONEY
FOR
% ROADS.
% STEVE
HINIKER OF
THE
% ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP
1000
FRIENDS
% OF
WISCONSIN
SAYS THE
S
YSTEM
MAY
% BE
BROKEN, BUT
F
EW
H
AVE
SHOWN
% INTEREST
IN
FIXING
IT.
% >> IF WE CONTINUE WITH
THE
% PROJECTS THAT ARE IN
THE
BOOKS,
% THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE TO
HAVE
THE
% APPETITE FOR A
H
UGE
TAX
% INCREASE.%I DON'T THINK IT'S
THER
E.
% >> THE
PROBLEM
WITH
HIGHWAY
% FUNDING AND SPENDING
IS
IT'S
% VERY
COMPLEX.
% THE PEOPLE
THAT KNOW
IT
CAN
G
AIN
% IT.
% WHETHER THE ROAD
BUILDERS
OR
% ENGINEERS, ALL
THESE
FIRMS
ARE
% GETTING
VERY
R
ICH
OFF OF
O
UR
% SYSTEM.%AND IT'S SO COMPLEX THAT ANYBODY
% THAT JUST
WANTS
TO
GO
IN
AND
FIX
% IT
QUICKLY G
ETS
LOST.
% >> THE
WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT
OF
% TRANSPORTATION'S
LATEST
L
ONG
% RANGE PLAN
SAYS
THE
GASOLINE
TAX
% MAY NOT BE
A
VIABLE
SOURCE OF
% REVENUE INTO THE
FUTURE.
% BUT IT MAKES
NO
RECOMMENDATION % FOR AN
IMMEDIATE
INCREASE
IN
THE
% GAS
TA
X.
% THE DOT
IS
ALSO
ON
RECORD
% AGAINST TOLLS.
% THE DOT
DECLINED
TO
PROVIDE A
% SPOKESMAN TO BE
INTERVIEWED
FOR % THIS
SEGMENT.
% >> I'M
NOT
TE
LLING YOU
THAT
-
% TO KNOCK THE
DOT,
BUT
W
HAT
I
% FOUND IN TERMS OF
S
IX
TERMS
I'VE
% BEEN
ELECTED
IN
THE
STATE
% ASSEMBLY!$!!!!!!!%ASSEMBLY, THE BUREAUCRACY %DOESN'T WANT TO ROCK THE
BOAT.
% THEY TAKE A
CAUTIOUS
APPROACH TO
% THIS.%>> I THINK
THE
DOT
IS
PROBABLY
% REACTING
TO
THE
FACT
THAT
WE
ARE
% IN
--
BETWEEN
PROVERBIAL ROCK
% AND A HARD
PLACE.
% PEOPLE WANT THE
TRANSPORTATION
% INFRASTRUCTURE AND PEOPLE WANT %TO
MAKE
S
URE
--
I'VE
BEEN
% PUSHING THIS
INTERCHANGE
ISSUE
A% LONG TIME.%PEOPLE WANT THE
INFRASTRUCTURE,
% THEY WANT
THE ROADS.
% THEY
NEED
THAT.
% HOWEVER, NOBODY WANTS TO PAY
FOR
% IT.%>> IF OUR NEEDS
ARE
MORE
THAN
% WHAT WE
HA
VE,
THEN
IT'S
UP
TO
% THE POLICY
MAKERS TO SELL
THAT
% TAX
INCREASE.
% RIGHT NOW,
I THINK
THAT'S
A
% PRETTY
TO
UGH
GA
ME.
% IT'S
--
PEOPLE
DON'T
BELIEVE
WE
% DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH.
% WE'RE
SPENDING
BILLIONS
EVERY
% YEAR ON
ROADS IN
THE
STATE.
% SOMEHOW
WE
HAVE
TO
INCREASE
% TAXES?%>> THE PROBLEM
IS
THE
MAIN
% SOURCE OF
REVENUE, THE
GAS
TAX,
% IS
RUNNING
OUT
OF
GAS.
% >>
THE
PROBLEM IS
OBVIOUSLY
% YOU'LL START TO
HAVE
PEOPLE
% DRIVING IN
PLUG-IN
ELECTRIC
% VEHICLES THAT
DON'T
PAY
ANY
GAS
% TAX.
% VEHICLES ARE
GENERALLY MUCH
MORE
% FUEL
EFFICIENT.% SO
LONG-TERM,
I THINK
MOST
% PEOPLE ARE
--
IT'S NOT
% SUSTAINABLE.%>>
EVERY
T
IME
A
NEW PRIUS
HITS
% THE STREETS,
A ROAD
BUILDER
% CRIES.%>> THAT WAS
ART
HACKETT
% REPORTING.%NOW MENTAL HEALTH NEWS
IN OUR
% STATE.
% THIS WEEKEND,
WISCONSIN
CENTER
% FOR
INVESTIGATIVE
JOURNALISM
% WILL RELEASE A
REPORT
ON
SUICIDE
% RATES
HERE.
% THERE WERE
6,513
PEOPLE
THAT
% TOOK THEIR OWN
LIVES
IN
% WISCONSIN FROM
1999
THROUGH
% 2008.%THE CENTER FOUND THE RATE O
F
% SUICIDE HERE
CONTINUES TO
RISE.
% AND
EXCEEDS
THOSE
OF
O
UR
% NEIGHBORING STATES.
% WISCONSIN'S RATE HAS
REMAINED
% HIGHER THAN THE
NATIONAL
R
ATE
% FOR ABOUT A
DECADE.
% THE
CENTER ALSO
FOUND
FACTORS
% THAT MAY HELP
EXPLAIN THESE
% RATES
INCLUDING
WISCONSIN'S
% ECONOMY
AS WELL
AS
OUR
STATE'S
% BINGE DRINKING
RATE.% IN
ANTICIPATION
OF
NEWSPAPERS
% AROUND THE
STATE
PUBLISHING % THESE
FINDINGS
ON
SUNDAY,
WE
% ASKED ERIC
GARLAND
TO
JOIN
US.
% MR.
GARLAND
VOLUNTEERS
AND
% S.U.V.s
ON
SEVERAL
S
UICIDE
% PREVENTION BOARDS
INCLUDING
% HOPES AND THE
NATIONAL
% ASSOCIATION OF MENTAL
ILLNESS
% WISCONSIN.%HIS SON,
BRANDON, TOOK
HIS O
WN
% LIFE
FOUR
YEARS AGO
THIS
WEEK.
% HE WAS
18.
% MR.
GA
RLAND,
THANKS
FOR
BEING % HERE. %>>
THANK
YOU.% >> LET ME
EXPRESS OUR
SORRY
FOR
% YOUR
LOSS.% >> THANK
YOU.% >> SO YOU'VE
BEEN
HELPING
OTHERS
% SINCE %>>
YES.
% >> WHAT DO YOU
DO?% >> THERE'S A HUGE
STIGMA
% ASSOCIATED WITH SUICIDE.
% THE
STIGMA
IS
REAL,
IT
EXISTS.
% I BELIEVE I
PERSONALLY
WAS
P
ART
% OF
THAT
STIGMA.
% WHEN OUR SON
DIED,
I
HAD
TO MAKE
% A
DECISION
IMMEDIATELY.
% WE
HAD
TO
MAKE
A
DECISION
AS
% SOON AS WE WROTE HIS
OBITUARY
.% DO YOU SAY
HE
D
IED
BY
SUICIDE?
% DO YOU SAY HE DIED
UNEXPECTEDLY?
% WHAT DO YOU
S
AY?
% WE CHOSE TO
BE
OPEN.
% WE SHARED THAT
HE
SUFFERED FROM
% DEPRESSION AND DIED
BY
SUICIDE.
% AT THAT POINT, YOU HAVE A
% FUNERAL.%YOU GO HOME.
% YOUR
NOR
MAL
IS
NOT
THERE
% ANYMORE.%THE NORMAL WE
HAD NO
LONGER
% EXISTED.%WHAT DO YOU DO
WITH
THIS
% FEELING,
THIS
INFORMATION?% THIS
GRIEF?
% AND THE
MISSION
WE
SET
OUT
UPON
% WAS TO
DO
WHATEVER
TO
MAKE
SURE
% OTHERS
THAT
DIDN'T
GO
THROUGH
% THE
SAME
TRAGEDY
THAT
HAPPENED
% IN MY
HOME.
% >> YOU TALKED ABOUT
THE
STIGMA.
% WHY DO YOU
THINK
THERE IS
THE
% STIGMA?%>> BECAUSE
MENTAL HEALTH
CAN'T
% BE
SEEN.% THAT'S MY
OWN
PERSONAL
OPINION.
% WE CAN
SEE
A
BROKEN
ARM,
WE
CAN
% SEE A
BROKEN
LEG,
WE
CAN
SEE
A
% SCAR.%BUT WE CAN'T SEE
A
HURT
THAT
IS
% INSIDE OF
SOMEONE.
% MENTAL
ILLNESS IS
AN
ILLNESS
% THAT
IS
INSIDE
OF
US.
% IT'S AS
REAL
AS
CANCER, DIABETES
% OR ANYTHING EL
SE.
% BUT
IT'S
NOT
ABLE
TO
BE
SEEN.
% AND THEREFORE MANY
PEOPLE
DON'T
% LIKE TO
TALK
ABOUT
IT.% >> SO
WHAT
SHOULD
WE
DO
ABOUT
% THAT?%IS
AWARENESS
IMPORTANT
TOWARDS
% PREVENTION?%>> TO ME, THE KEYS
TO
P
REVENTION
% ARE
EDUCATION AND
AWARENESS.
% THAT SIMPLE.
% THE MORE
PEOPLE
KNOW, THE MORE
% THE
STIGMA GOES
AWAY.
% >> THE
STATISTICS THAT
WILL
BE
% RELEASED SUNDAY FROM THIS
% COMPREHENSIVE SURVEY, DOES
IT
% SURPRISE
YOU?
% >>
YES
AND
NO.
% THEY'RE VERY
DISHEARTENING.% WE PUT A
GREAT
DEAL
OF
TIME
AND
% WORK INTO
SUICIDE
PREVENTION.
% IN SPITE OF OUR
BEST
EFFORTS,
% SOME
OF
THE
NUMBERS
CONTINUE TO
% RISE.
% ALARMINGLY, IT'S THE SECOND
% LEADING CAUSE OF
DEATH IN
% WISCONSIN FOR HIGH SCHOOL
AND
% COLLEGE-AGE
STUDENTS.
% MY SON WAS A
HIGH SCHOOL
% STUDENT.
% TO ME,
IT'S
SCARY.
% SCARY TO BE
A
PARENT
AND
KNOW
% THAT
THE
SECOND
LEADING
CAUSE
OF
% DEATH BEHIND AUTOMOBILE
% ACCIDENTS! %SO YEAH,
IT'S
ALARMING,
% CONCERNING
THAT
THE
MEMBERS
DO
% CONTINUE TO RISE WHAT DO
WE
DO
% TO GET THEM TO
G
O
DOWN?
% >> WHAT
DO YOU
THINK?
% ALL
OF
THESE
ARE
SCARED.% WHAT SHOULD WE
A
S
A
COMMUNITY, % AS
PARENTS, AS
INDIVIDUALS
DO?
% >> WE
NEED
TO KNOW WHAT
THE
% WARNING SIGNS
ARE.
% IF WE SEE
THEM,
WE
NEED
TO
GET % THE
PERSON
THE
TREATMENT THEY
% NEED.%IF IT'S
OURSELVES, WE
DON'T HAVE
% TO FEEL
THAT WAY.
% THERE'S HELP
AVAILABLE.% IF WE HAVE A
BROKEN
LE
G,
WE
GO
% TO THE
DOCTOR.
% IF WE'RE BROTHER
INSIDE,
WE
% SHOULD SEE THE
DOCTOR,
TOO.
% IN
M
Y
SON'S
CASE,
WE
SUFFERED
% DEPRESSION.%HE DIDN'T WANT TO
BE
BROKEN.
% HE
TREATED
FOR A
WHILE,
HE
% STOPPED.
% HE LOST
H
IS
L
IFE
BECAUSE
HE
% STOPPED TREATMENT.%>> YOU JUST
SUGGESTED THAT WE
% SHOULD BE AWARE OF
THE
WARNING
% SIGNS.%WHAT ARE THEY?
% >> THERE'S SO
M
ANY
WARNING
% SIGNS.
% THEY'RE VERY
DIFFICULT TO
% IDENTIFY
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE
T
ALK
% WITH
TEENAGERS.% MANY
CAN
BE
CONSIDERED
NORMAL
% TEENAGE
TENDENCIES.
% THERE CAN BE
M
INOR
THINGS
LIKE
A
% CHANGE
IN
SLEEPING
HABITS.
% WHETHER
SLEEPLESSNESS.% COULD BE A
C
HANGE IN
EATING
% HABITS
WHERE SOMEONE
THAT
ATE
A
% LOT NOW
EATS
NOTHING.
% VICE
VERSA.
% COULD BE
A
CHANGE
IN
SCHOOL
% HABITS.%GO FROM As
TO
Ds
.
% COULD BE A
CHANGE
IN
RELIGION.
% SOMEONE THAT WAS NOT
RELIGIOUS
% ALL
OF
A
SUD
DEN
IS
VERY
% RELIGIOUS OR
V
ICE
VERSA.
% SOMEONE
THAT
TURNS THEIR
BACK
ON
% THEIR
FAITH.
% ANGER CAN
BE
A
H
UGE
WARNING
% SIGN.%WHAT WE DO
KNOW IS
M
OST PEOPLE
% THAT DIE
BY
SUICIDE
SUFFER FROM % MENTAL
ILLNESS OR
SUBSTANCE
% ABUSE.
% 60% OF
THE
SUICIDES ARE
% ASSOCIATED WITH DEPRESSION THAT %IS EITHER
UNTREATED OR IN THE
% PROCESS
OF
BEING
TREATED.
% IT'S
IMPORTANT
TO
SEEK
OUT
A
ND
% GET THE HELP AND
CONTINUE
WITH
% THE
HELP.% >> ALL RIGHT.
% SO THAT
WOULD
BE
THE
INFORMA
TION% FOR PEOPLE THAT
RIGHT NOW
ARE
IN
% THAT PLACE?
% WHO ARE
FEELING
AS
THOUGH
THEY
% HAVE
SUICIDAL
THOUGHTS?
% >>
FEELING
SUICIDAL, YOU
NEED
TO
% REACH OUT,
GET
THE
HELP,
ACCEPT
% THE
HELP.
% THE PROBLEM IS
MANY
PEOPLE
WHO
% MAY BE
SUFFERING
DEPRESSION % DON'T ALWAYS
REALIZE
THEY'RE
% DEPRESSED.
% THEY DON'T
REALIZE.
% >>
VERY
DIFFICULT.
% ERIC, THANK
YOU.% >> YOU'RE
WELCOME.
% >> WE
WANT TO
LEAVE
YOU
NOW
WITH
% ONE MORE
LOOK
AT THE
NATIONAL
% SUICIDE HOT LINE PHONE
NUMBERS.
% ALSO LOOK FOR
THESE
N
UMBERS
AS % WELL
AS
LINKS
TO
WISCONSIN
AND
% NATIONAL SUICIDE
M
ENTAL
HEALTH
% AGENCIES ON
THE
"HERE AND NOW"
% WEB PAGE
AT WPT.ORG.
% NOW MORE
HEALTH
NEWS.
% ANOTHER NEW CITY
DID
TAKES A
% LOOK AT THE
OVERALL
HEALTH OF % OUR STATE.%THE INSTITUTE
RANKED
ALL
72
% WISCONSIN
COUNTIES
FROM
MOST
TO
% LEAST
HEALTHY.% HERE
WHAT
THEY
FOUND.
% OZAUKEE
IS THE MOST
HEALTHY
% FOLLOWED
BY
ST.
CROIX,
% WASHINGTON,
WAUKESHA,
PORTAGE,
% CALUMET AND AQUA
AND
BUFFALO
AND
% TAYLOR AND
DANE.
% JULIE, THANKS FOR BEING
HERE.
% >> THANK
YOU.
% >> WE TALKED ABOUT
THE
TOP
1
0
% AND THE NUMBER
1
.
% WHAT PEOPLE
WANT
TO
KNOW IS
WHAT% THE THE LEAST
HEALTHY
COUNTY IS
% IN
WISCONSIN.
% >> THE LEAST
HEALTHY IS
IN
THE
% NORTH
CENTRAL PART
OF
THE
STATE.
% AND THE SECOND
LEAST
COUNTY IS
% MILWAUKEE
COUNTY.% >> HEALTH WISE,
WHAT
IS
THE
% DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
MOST
% HEALTHY,
THAT
BEING
OZAUKEE?% >> IT'S
THE
PREMATURE
DEATH
% RATES.%WE BELIEVE THIS IS A
RESULT OF A
% NUMBER OF HEALTH
FACTORS.
% WE DO
A
SECOND
S
ET
O
F
RANKINGS % THAT LOOK
A
T
FACTORS THAT
LEAD
% TO
P
REMATURE
D
EATH
AND
CHRONIC
% DISEASE.%THOSE
INCLUDE HEALTH
BEHAVIORS,
% SOCIOECONOMIC
FACTORS,
THE
% PHYSICAL
ENVIRONMENT AND
ACCESS
% AND
QUALITY
TO
CLINICAL
CARE.
% >> AND DID
YOU
F
IND
SUBSETS
OF
% COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATE THAT %WERE BY AND LARGE
M
ORE
H
EALTHY
% THAN
OTHERS?
% LIKE WHERE
CITIES,
WERE
PEOPLE
% IN
CITIES
MORE
LIKELY
EXCEPT FOR
% MILWAUKEE?%>> YES.%THE
HEALTHIER
PLACES
TEND TO
BE
% SUBURBAN
AREAS
AND
SMALLER
% CITIES.
% SUBURBAN AREAS LIKE
MINNEAPOLIS % ON THE
WESTERN
S
IDE
OF
THE
% STATE.
% SUBURBAN AREAS OF
MI
LWAUKEE AND
% DANE COUNTY
AS
WE
LL.
% >> WHAT IS
THE
MOTIVATION BEHIND
% PUTTING OUT THESE
RANKINGS?
% >> THIS IS
AN
IMPORTANT
REPORT
% TO HELP BRING
ATTENTION TO
THE
% MANY, MANY DIFFERENT
FACTORS
% THAT
INFLUENCE
HEALTH.
% MANY TIMES PEOPLE
THINK
ABOUT
% HEALTH AS
PRIMARILY
IN
THE
H
ANDS
% OF
YOUR
DOC
TOR.
% BUT
REALLY,
WHILE
MEDICAL
C
ARE
% IS VERY
IMPORTANT,
THE
O
THER
% ISSUES LIKE HOW
WEALTHY
PEOPLE
% ARE, HOW
WELL
EDUCATED
PEOPLE
% ARE, WHAT THEIR HEALTH
BEHAVIORS
% ARE,
WHAT
KIND
OF
P
HYSICAL
% ENVIRONMENT THEY LIVE IN,
HOW
% SOCIALLY
CONNECTED THEY
ARE IN
% THEIR
COMMUNITIES
ALL
HAVE A
% VERY IMPORTANT
IMPACT
ON
HEALTH.
% SO
WE
W
ANT
TO
RAISE
AWARENESS
% AND BRING MANY,
MANY
PARTNERS TO
% THE TABLE TO
TALK
ABOUT
HOW
TO
% IMPROVE HEALTH.%>>
IN
FACT, THE
RANKINGS HAVE
% PROVED
MOTIVATIONAL
FOR
S
OME
% COUNTIES THAT DIDN'T DO SO
WELL.
% >>
ABSOLUTELY, A
COUPLE
Y
EARS
% AGO,
J
UNO
COUNTY
WAS THE
LOWEST
% IN THE
STATE.
% THEY DIDN'T LIKE
THAT
VERY
MUCH,
% SO A
VARIETY
OF
LEADERS IN THAT
% COMMUNITY
INCLUDING
ELECTED
% OFFICIALS,
PHYSICIANS,
EDUCATION
% LEADERS, PUBLIC HEALTH
LEADERS, % CAME
TOGETHER AND
HAVE
WORKED
ON
% A PLAN
TO
ENHANCE
HEALTH
% PROGRAMS AND
POLICIES IN
JUNO
% COUNTY.%>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
YOU
% WANTED I'M SURE.
% BUT THIS
YEAR
THE
SURVEY
WENT
% NATIONWIDE.%WHAT'S BEEN THE REACTION TO
% THAT?%>> WE
PUBLISHED
COUNTY
HEALTH
% RANKINGS IN ALL
50
STATES.
% IT HAS
BEEN
OUTSTANDING.
% THE
MEDIA
HAS
COVERED
THIS
% EXTENSIVELY.%WE'VE HAD OVER
900
STORIES
% THROUGHOUT THE
N
ATION.
% WE WORKED
CLOSELY WITH
STATE AND
% LOCAL HEALTH
DEPARTMENTS AND
% WE'RE HOPING
FOR
THE
S
AME
KIND
% OF ACTION THAT WE
SAW
IN
JUNO
% COUNTY.%>> JULIE,
THANK
YOU.% >>
FINALLY,
OUR
SINGING
% COMMENTATOR PETER
LEIDY.
% THE
ASSEMBLY
PASSED THE
PAYDAY
% LOAN BILL
THIS
WEEK.% THE FLOOR ACTION ON
THIS
BILL
% GOES
ALMOST AS
MUCH
ATTENTION AS
% THE
OFF-THE-FLOOR ACTION.
% THAT'S BECAUSE OF
ATTENTION
PAID
% TO
SPEAKER
MIKE
SHERIDAN AND
% HEAD FORMER
RELATIONSHIP WITH A
% LOBBYIST FOR THE
PAYDAY
LOAN
% INDUSTRY.%HERE'S
PETER
LEIDY
PLAYING
THE
% PART
OF
THE SPEAKER IN
TONIGHT'S
% MUSICAL COMMENTARY.
% ♪
HELLO
WISCONSIN ♪
% ♪ I'M
SPEAKER MIKE
SHERIDAN
♪
% ♪
THIS
IS
MY
THIRD
TERM
♪
% ♪
THE
VOTERS
DECIDED
♪
% ♪
BACK
TO
MADISON
I
SHOULD
BE
% SENT ♪% ♪
I'M
SORRY
IF YOU
THOUGHT
I % WAS
TRYING TO
MISLEAD
YOU
♪
% ♪ THAT
WAS
SURELY
N
OT
MY
% INTENT ♪% ♪ I DO
SEE
THAT
COULD
HAVE
BEEN
% YOUR
PERCEPTION OF
M
E
♪
% ♪ I THINK
I'LL
GIVE
UPDATING
% LOBBYISTS FOR LENT ♪
% ♪
I'M
ONLY
HUMAN
♪
% ♪ NEVER SAID
I WAS
PERFECT.
% ♪ THINK BUT THIS WHOLE
THING
IS
% NOT WHAT
IT
APPEARS
♪
% ♪
I'M
A
H
ARD
WORKER
♪
% ♪
A
BLUE
COLLAR
BACKGROUND ♪
% ♪
WORKED
IN
A
FACTORY
31
% YEARS ♪
% ♪
HEY,
I
DIDN'T TAKE
BRIBES
♪
% ♪
I'M
IS NOT
A
CRIMINAL
♪
% ♪ I DON'T
HAVE
MULTIPLE
DUIs
♪
% ♪
I'M
A
STRAIGHT-FORWARD
M
AN
♪
% ♪ I DON'T
WRITE
CRIB
NOTES
ON
% MY
HAND
♪
% ♪ AND WITH
THE
PAYDAY
LENDERS
% I'VE SEVERED MY
TIES
♪
% ♪
YES,
I
DATED
THAT WOMAN
♪
% ♪ AT
FIRST
I
DENIED
IT
♪
% ♪
S
HE
WORKED
FOR
THE
PAYDAY
% LOAN INDUSTRY ♪% ♪
NOW
I
SEE
THE
PERCEPTION ♪
% ♪ BUS
TRAVELING
TOGETHER ♪
% ♪
C
AST A
SUSPICIOUS LIGHT ON
% ME ♪% ♪ BE
ASSURED
IT
DID
NOT
% INFLUENCE MY VIEWS ♪
% ♪ ABOUT
NE
EDED
RESTRICTIONS OF
% THAT INDUSTRY ♪
% ♪ THOUGH AT
FIRST I
DID
STATE
% WE NEED
TO
CAP
THAT
INTE
REST % RATE
♪
% ♪ I
CHANGED
MY
M
IND
SO
YOU
CAN
% ALL SHUT UP NOW
♪
% ♪ I DON'T
CARE
WHO
DID
WHAT
AND
% WHO DID IT
WHEN
♪
% ♪
I
SPENT
31
Y
EARS ON
AN
% ASSEMBLY
LINE
♪
% ♪ OUR
NUMBER
1
J
OB
IS
TO
CREATE
% MORE JOBS ♪
% ♪ SO LET P
UT
THIS
BEHIND
US
% ALREADY AND GET BACK
TO
THE
WORK
% WE
NEED
TO
DO
NOW ♪% >> THANK YOU.
% >>
PETER
LEIDY.% HAD HE BEEN, HIS SONGS ARE
% COMMON
TEARIES
OR
OPINIONS.
% NEXT WEEK, WE'LL HAVE
EXCEPTS
% FROM THE
ANNUAL
STATE OF THE
% TRIBES
ADDRESSED FOR TUESDAY
AT % THE STATE CAPITOL
AND
WE'LL
% BEGIN A NEW
SERIES
OF
REPORTS
% THAT LOOKS INTO
WHAT IS
BEING
% DOWN TO CURB
FRAUD
IN
THE
% WISCONSIN'S SHARES CHILD
% PROGRAM.%I'M
FREDERICA FREYBERG.% HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
% >> PRESENTATION OF "HERE AND
% NOW" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE
% ANIMAL DENTAL CENTER OF
% MILWAUKEE AND OSHKOSH, A
% VETERINARY SPECIALISTS WORKING
% WITH PET OWNERS AND FAMILY
% VETERINARIANS THROUGHOUT
% WISCONSIN, PROVIDING CARE FOR
% ORAL DISEASE AND DENTAL PROBLEMS
% FOR SMALL COMPANION ANIMALS.
% ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR "HERE AND%NOW" IS PROVIDED BY THE LE
% PHILLIPS FAMILY FOUNDATION.