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>> THE FOLLOWING
PROGRAM IS
A%-PBS
WISCONSIN
ORIGINAL
%-PRODUCTION.
%- >> YOU'RE
WATCHING "HERE AND
%-NOW"
2024
ELECTION
COVERAGE.
%- >> YOU'RE OUT
OF
ORDER.%-(Gavel
Strike).
%- >> SENATE
REPUBLICANS TRY
TO
%-UNDO GOVERNOR
EVERS'
VETOES IN
A
%-DISPLAY
OF
POLITICAL
%-IN-FIGHTING.%-AND THE
WISCONSIN SUPREME COURT
%-HEARS
ORAL
ARGUMENTS
ON
ABSENTEE
%-BALLOT DROP
BOXES
AGAIN.
%-I'M FREDERICA
FREYBERG.
%-TONIGHT
ON "HERE AND NOW,"
WE
%-GET
A
PREVIEW OF
THE
REPUBLICAN
%-STATE
CONVENTION WITH
THE
PARTY
%-CHAIR.
%-THEN, A
LOOK AT
THE
ABSENTEE
%-BALLOT DROP
BOX
CASE
BEFORE
THE
%-HIGH
COURT.
%-CLIMATE EXPERTS
GIVE
MADISON
THE
%-MONIKER OF
BEING
A
CLIMATE
%-HAVEN,
BUT IS
IT?
%-AND
FINALLY,
WE
SPEAK WITH
AN
%-OUTGOING
ACADEMIC
DEAN
WHOSE
%-DEPARTMENT GOT
MIRED
IN
%-POLITICAL
CONFLICT.
%-IT'S "HERE AND NOW"
FOR
MAY
17.
%- >> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS%-PROVIDED BY THE FOCUS FUNDFOR%-JOURNALISM AND FRIENDS OF PBS
%-WISCONSIN.
%- >> IN A
LEAD-UP TO
THE
%-REPUBLICAN NATIONAL
CONVENTION
%-HAPPENING THIS
SUMMER
IN
%-MILWAUKEE, THE
PARTY'S
STATE
%-CONVENTION IS
HAPPENING
THIS
%-WEEKEND IN
APPLETON.
%-THE
CHAIR OF
THE
WISCONSIN
%-REPUBLICAN PARTY
SAYS IN
THIS
%-BATTLEGROUND OF
ALL
BATTLEGROUND
%-STATES, THEY'RE
READY AND
ABLE
%-TO
WIN UP
AND
DOWN
THE
BALLOT.
%-THE
WISCONSIN G.O.P.
CHAIR
JOINS
%-US AHEAD OF
THE
STATE
%-CONVENTION.
%-BRAD
SCHIMMING,
THANKS VERY MUCH
%-FOR BEING
HERE.
%- >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.%->> SO
WE
KNOW
WISCONSIN IS
%-IMPORTANT,
BUT
JUST
HOW
%-IMPORTANT IS
WISCONSIN THIS
%-ELECTION?%- >> THE TRUTH OF THE
MATTER
IS,
%-IN
WISCONSIN, IN
THE
LAST
24
%-YEARS, WE'VE HAD
12
STATEWIDE
%-RACES.
%-WE'RE 6
MILLION
PEOPLE.%-WE'VE HAD
12
RACES IN
THE
LAST
%-25 YEARS THAT WERE
DECIDED
BY
%-30,000 VOTES
OR
LESS.
%-SO
I'M
CERTAINLY
FEELING
THE
%-ATTENTION EXPONENTIALLY AND
!!!!!
NATIONALLY AND
I
LIKE
%-THAT
AND
IT'S
WHY
THE
REPUBLICAN
%-NATIONAL
CONVENTION IS
COMING
TO
%-MILWAUKEE.
%- >> WHAT'S
AT
STAKE UP
AND
DOWN
%-THE BALLOT
HERE?
%- >> JUST ABOUT
EVERYTHING.%-IT'S
INTERESTING.%-I WAS
SAYING THE OTHER
DAY
THAT
%-HERE WE ARE
IN
WISCONSIN.
%-REMEMBER, WE
USED TO
BE
CALLED
%-FLYOVER COUNTRY.
%-REMEMBER
THOSE
YEARS?
%-NOW WE'RE
FLY-IN
COUNTRY.%-WE
HAVE A
CLOSE
PRESIDENTIAL
%-RACE, BY
ANYBODY'S
TELLING, IT'S
%-A
CLOSE
RACE IN
WISCONSIN.%-WE
HAVE A
CLOSE
SENATE
RACE,
%-WHICH, SIX
MONTHS
AGO,
NOBODY%-WOULD
HAVE
GUESSED,
BUT
WE
HAD A
%-CLOSE
U.S.
SENATE
RACE.
%-TWO TARGET
RACES,
BOTH
HOUSES OF
%-THE
LEGISLATURE,
SO
WISCONSIN
%-ALMOST ONE OF THE
USUAL
IS
%-REALLY A
FOCUS
OF
NATIONAL
%-ATTENTION.%-WE FEEL IT AT
THE
STATE
PARTY,
%-TOO.%- >> YOU WERE JUST
TALKING WITH
ME
%-ABOUT
MONEY.
%-WILL
REPUBLICANS
IN
WISCONSIN
%-START TO
SEE
THE
SPIGOT
FLOW?
%- >> YEAH.%-I
MEAN,
WE'RE
FEELING
IT
ALREADY%-IN TERMS OF
THE
SUPPORT
%-NATIONALLY.%-THE GREAT
THING FOR US WITH THE
%-NEW
LEADERSHIP AT
THE NATIONAL
%-COMMITTEE,
MIKE
WADLEY, THEY
ARE
%-COMPLETELY
FOCUSED,
NOT
JUST
US,%-OF COURSE,
BUT
OTHER
TARGET
%-STATES AS WELL,
SO
WE
JUST HOUSE%-MAJORITY
!!!!
HIREDA
NEW
POLITICAL
LEADER
THIS
%-WEEK.%-WE'RE ONE OF
THE
BUILD-OUT
%-STATES
ALREADY
ON
FIELD
STAFF
%-OPENING LOCAL
OFFICES.
%-WE'LL HAVE THE RESOURCES
WE
%-NEED.%- >> WHICH VOTERS, OTHER
THAN ALL
%-OF
THEM,
WILL
REPUBLICANS
BE
%-SPECIFICALLY KIND OF
TARGETING?%- >> THE
PRESIDENT
IS
HURTING
WITH%-A LOT OF
HIS
BASE
GROUPS.
%-YOUNG
PEOPLE.%-VERY,
VERY
CLOSE
BETWEEN
HE
AND%-PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
%-HISPANICS AS
WELL.
%-BIDEN IS
NOT
DOING
NEARLY AS%-WELL AS HE DID
WITH
WOMEN
WHEN
%-HE FIRST
RAN.
%-SO AS
YOU
LOOK
AT
THOSE
%-DIFFERENT
GROUPS, THERE
ARE%-PLENTY OF
OPPORTUNITIES
FOR
%-REPUBLICANS.
%-BUT AS I
SAY
TO
REPUBLICANS%-AROUND THE
STATE, YOU
HAVE TO
GO
%-GET THOSE
VOTERS.
%-YOU CAN'T
COUNT
ON
THEM
NOT
%-BEING
UNHAPPY WITH THE CRUEL AND%-UNUSUAL
!!!!!
INCUMBENT,
BUT THEY
ARE VERY,
%-VERY
UNHAPPY WITH
THE
INCUMBENT.%- >> SPEAKING OF
VOTERS, YOU HAVE%-BEEN PUSHING EARLY
VOTING
FOR
%-MONTHS, WHICH
IS
A
TOTAL
SEAT
%-CHANGE FOR
REPUBLICANS.%-BUT
THE
REPUBLICAN
PARTY
OF
%-WISCONSIN
ALSO
OFFICIALLY
%-OPPOSED THE
USE
OF
BALLOT DROP
%-BOXES IN
A
CASE BEFORE THE%-SUPREME
COURT.
%- >> RIGHT.%->> NOW
I
UNDERSTAND YOU
ARE
IN
%-SUPPORT OF
THOSE?%-WHAT'S THE
ACTUAL DEAL
HERE?
%- >> WE
OPPOSE
THE DROP
BOXES
%-BECAUSE WE
FEEL
AS
THOUGH THEY%-ARE
POSSIBLY THE
SUBJECT
OF SOME
%-FRAUD.
%-BUT
ALMOST MORE
IMPORTANTLY,
%-HERE WE
ARE
JUST A COUPLE
OF
%-MONTHS BEFORE
THE
ELECTION
%-AGAIN, AND THE
STATE SUPREME%-COURT
I
S
ACTING
LIKE
A
SECOND
%-LEGISLATURE AND
GOING IN
AND
%-CHANGING CAMPAIGN
LAWS.
%-FRANKLY, I DON'T
THINK
THE DROP%-BOXES SHALL
BE THE
LAST
ONE
WE
%-SEE FROM THIS SUPREME
COURT, SO%-I THINK
THERE'S
A
LEGITIMATE
%-ISSUE.%-I GET
THAT THERE ARE
SOME
CLERKS%-AROUND THE STATE
THAT THEY
DON'T
%-WANT ALL
OF
THESE
CHANGES TO THE
%-LAW
MADE IN
THE
RUN UP TO THE
%-ELECTION, BUT
WE'VE
OPPOSED DROP
%-BOXES,
BUT TO
YOUR
POINT, I SAY
%-TO
REPUBLICANS ACROSS
THE
STATE,
%-WHETHER IT'S DROP BOXES
OR
OTHER
%-POTENTIAL
CHANGES, I
HAVE
TO
%-DEAL
WITH
THE
LAWS
AS THEY
ARE,%-AND I'M GOING
TO.
%- >> NOW, YOU
SAY
THAT
WISCONSIN
%-REPUBLICAN VOTERS
ARE ALL
IN
ON%-DONALD
TRUMP.
%-DOES
THAT
SUGGEST
THAT
%-REPUBLICANS
HAVE
FORGIVEN
AND
%-FORGOTTEN
JANUARY
6th AND
ALL%-THAT
HAPPENED
BEFORE AND
AFTER?%- >> I DON'T KNOW
IF IT'S
A
MATTER
%-OF
ALL
THOSE
THINGS
THAT
THEY'RE
%-GOOFING AROUND WITH IN
THE
%-COURTS.%-IT'S NOT A
MATTER
OF
FORGIVING.%-YOU
KNOW
WHAT'S
INTERESTING%-ABOUT THIS
RACE?
%-IT'S
NOT
THE
TYPICAL
INCUMBENT
%-RACE.
%-IT'S A
RACE
BETWEEN
TWO
%-INCUMBENTS.%-WHAT WE
SEE IN
THE
APOLOGY,
!
!!
POLLING, NOW
%-THEY KNOW WHAT
THEY
GET
WITH JOE
%-BIDEN, WHICH IS
HIGH
INFLATION,
%-HIGH
INTEREST
RATES,
BAD
G.D.P.
%-NUMBERS.
%-NOW THEY
KNOW
WHAT
THEY'RE
%-GETTING
BETWEEN THE
TWO, AND
%-THAT'S
WORKING
FOR PRESIDENT
%-TRUMP.%- >> AS TO
WISCONSIN'S
KEY
SENATE
%-RACE, OTHER
REPUBLICANS
ON
OUR
%-AIR HAVE SAID THAT
IT WOULD
BE%-VERY, VERY
TOUGH
TO
BEAT
%-DEMOCRATIC
INCUMBENT TAMMY
%-BALDWIN.
%-YOU
OBVIOUSLY DON'T THINK
THAT.%- >> I
DON'T.%-I
MEAN, TAMMY
BALDWIN'S
NUMBERS
%-COLLAPSED IMMEDIATELY AFTER SHE
%-GOT
A
TOUGH
OPPONENT IN
THE
%-RACE, AND
THAT
HAS
TURNED
THAT
%-INTO ONE OF THE
MOST
COMPETITIVE%-U.S. SENATE
RACES IN
THE
%-COUNTRY.%-EVEN
FOUR,
FIVE
MONTHS
AGO,
%-PEOPLE
WERE
SAYING
TAMMY
IS TOO
%-TOUGH TO
BEAT.
%-THE
POLLING DOESN'T
SHOW
THAT
%-AND
SHE'S
A
95%
VOTER
WITH JOE
%-BIDEN.%- >> HOW DO YOU THINK
WISCONSIN'S
%-NEW
MAPS WILL
CHANGE
THE
%-LEGISLATURE?
%- >> YEAH.%-I THINK IT'S HARD
TO
TELL.%-I THINK
THE
SENATE
SEEMS
LIKE
%-IT'S -- SENATE
REPUBLICANS ARE A
%-LITTLE BETTER
POSITIONED
OR IN
%-AN OKAY
POSITION.
%-THE ASSEMBLY I
THINK
IS
MORE
%-COMPETITIVE, AND AS YOU
KNOW,
%-I'VE
DONE A LOT
OF
ASSEMBLY
RACE%-AROUND THE
STATES.
%-I'M
FAMILIAR WITH
THE
ASSEMBLY.%-BUT THE
DEMOCRATS, I
FEEL
AS
%-THOUGH
WILL
KEEP
BOTH AND THE
%-DEMOCRATS ARE
GOING TO
HAVE
TO
%-FIND ANOTHER
EXCUSE
FOR
LOSING
%-BECAUSE I THINK WE
WILL
BE
%-VICTORIOUS
IN
BOTH
HOUSES AND I
%-KNOW THE
STATE VERY,
VERY WELL,
%-AND, WELL,
YOU'RE
RIGHT, I THINK
%-THE
NUMBERS
WILL
CHANGE.%-DOES
IT
AUTOMATICALLY
FLIP
%-HOUSES?%-I DON'T THINK
SO.%- >> WE WILL
WATCH.%-IN THIS
PIVOTAL
ELECTION
YEAR,
%-WHAT IS IT
LIKE
FOR
REPUBLICANS%-TO BE
HOSTING
THE
NATIONAL
%-CONVENTION IN
MILWAUKEE?
%- >> WELL, AS YOU KNOW,
I'M
A
%-HOMER,
SO
I'M
ALL
ABOUT
HAVING
%-THE
CONVENTION IN
MILWAUKEE.
%-WHEN I WAS
DOING
THE
RADIO
%-ANNOUNCEMENT IN
MILWAUKEE, I WAS
%-EVEN HAPPY
ABOUT
THAT
BECAUSE I
%-WANTED IT TO
BE
GOOD
FOR
%-MILWAUKEE AND THE WHOLE
STATE.
%-THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION WILL
%-BE,
TOO.
%-I'M
EXCITED,
OBVIOUSLY,
AS STATE
%-CHAIRMAN, TO BE HOSTING
THE
%-NATIONAL
CONVENTION.
%-BUT IT'S
MONEY,
ABOUT
$200
%-MILLION,
50,000 PEOPLE
COMING TO
%-THE
STATE,
BUT
EVEN
MORE
JUST%-FOR
THE
WISCONSIN
ECONOMY, IT'S
%-TERRIFIC.
%-THE WHOLE
WORLD,
NOT
JUST
THE
%-COUNTRY, THE
WHOLE
WORLD WILL
BE
%-WATCHING
WISCONSIN.
%-AND
FOR
REPUBLICANS, IT'S A WAY
%-TO
PULL
OUR
MESSAGE
TOGETHER IN%-FRONT OF
A
NATIONAL
AUDIENCE%-WITH A
FIVE-DAY
SHOW THAT I
%-THINK IS
JUST
GOING TO
BE
GREAT
%-FOR
WISCONSIN.
%-I'M SO
EXCITED.%- >> ALL
RIGHT.
%-BRYAN
SCHIMMING, THANKS
SO
MUCH.
%- >> SO GOOD TO
SEE
YOU.
%- >> WE EXPECT TO
TALK
WITH
%-DEMOCRATIC PARTY
CHAIR,
%-BENWIKERE
!!!
BEN
WIKLER,
NEXT
MONTH.
%-THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY
WEIGHED
IN
%-AGAINST
THEIR
USE, DROP
BOXES,%-BEFORE
THE STATE SUPREME
COURT,%-WHICH
HEARD
ORAL
ACTORS
THIS
%-WEEK.
%-THE
CASE
SEEKS
TO
OVERTURN A
%-RULING
MADE BY
THE
COURT TWO
%-YEARS
AGO IN
A
CASE
REFERRED
%-WHICH BARRED
THE
USE
OF DROP
%-BOXES AFTER
THE 2020
ELECTION
%-BECAUSE LAW
DID NOT
EXPRESSLY
%-ALLOW
THEIR
USE.
%- >> TEIGAN,
THE
PRINCIPLE IS THAT
%-SOMEHOW
IF
SOMETHING IS
NOT
%-EXPLICITLY
STATED IN
THE
%-STATUTE, THAT IT
CAN'T
BE
DONE.
%-THAT
PRINCIPLE,
THAT'S
THE
%-PRINCIPLE
THAT
TURNS EVERYTHING%-ELSE
ON
ITS
HEAD.
%- >> IN
TEIGAN, WHAT IF
WE
JUST
%-GOT
IT
WRONG?%-WHAT IF
WE
MADE
A
MISTAKE?
%-ARE
WE NOW
SUPPOSED TO
JUST
%-PERPETUATE THAT
MISTAKE INTO THE
%-FUTURE?%- >> AT THE SAME
TIME,
COMMON
%-CAUSE WISCONSIN
ARGUED
FOR
THEIR
%-USE.
%-ITS EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR,
JAY
%-HECK,
JOINS US
NOW.
%-JAY,
NICE TO SEE
YOU.
%- >> GOOD TO BE WITH
YOU,
FRED,
%-AND GOOD TO
SEE
YOU
AGAIN.%- >> IN YOUR
MIND,
SHOULD
%-WISCONSIN VOTERS
EXPECT TO SEE
%-THE
USE
OF
ABSENTEE
BALLOT DROP
%-BOXES
FOR
UPCOMING
ELECTIONS
%-FROM WHAT YOU HEARD
IN
ORAL
%-ARGUMENTS?%- >> WELL, IF
THE
ORAL
ARGUMENTS%-ARE ANY
INDICATION
ABOUT WHAT
%-THE CLERK
MIGHT
DO, I
AM
VERY
%-POSITIVE OR
HAVE A
VERY
GOOD
%-POSITIVE FEELING ABOUT WHAT
THE
%-OUTCOME MIGHT
BE.
%-ONE THING
THAT'S IMPORTANT
TO
%-NOTE IS
THAT WE HAVE
HAD DROP
%-BOXES
IN
WISCONSIN FOR
A NUMBER
%-OF
YEARS, AND, OF
COURSE,
MOST
%-FAMOUSLY DURING
2020 IN
THE
%-PANDEMIC, THEY WERE
A
MEANS
FOR
%-MANY THOUSANDS OF
WISCONSINITES%-AROUND THE STATE TO
BE
ABLE
TO
%-RETURN THEIR
ABSENTEE
BALLOTS IN
%-A
SAFE,
SECURE
WAY.
%-RURAL
VOTERS,
URBAN
VOTERS,
%-YOUNG
VOTERS,
OLD
VOTERS,
PEOPLE
%-WITH
DISABILITIES,
THEY'RE A
%-GOOD
THING.
%-AND
WISCONSIN IS
NOW
THE
ONLY
%-STATE IN THE
UPPER
MIDWEST,
ONLY
%-NON-RED -- DEEP RED
STATE
THAT
%-DOESN'T ALLOW THE
USE OF
THEM.
%- >> SO WITH THE
CONCERN ON THE
%-PART OF
REPUBLICANS IS THAT
%-THOSE
BOXES
COULD
RESULT
IN
%-FRAUD
WITH
BALLOT
HARVESTING AND
%-THE
UNSECURED
NATURE OF
THEM.%-WHAT ABOUT
THAT?
%- >> WELL,
THOSE ARE
THE
%-SUSPICIONS OF
ELECTION
DENIERS
%-AND CONSPIRACY
THEORISTS.%-DURING THE
2020
ELECTION,
NOT
A
%-SINGLE
INCIDENT OF
A DROP
BOX
%-BEING
TAMPERED
WITH
OR
FRAUD
OR%-ANY
OF THESE
THINGS.%-THIS
IS
THE
SPECTER THAT IS
%-CONSTANTLY RAISED
TO TRY
TO
%-REDUCE THE
ABILITY
OF
%-WISCONSINITES TO BE
ABLE
TO
VOTE
%-SAFELY BY
ABSENTEE
BALLOTS
OR
%-SOMETIMES EVEN
AT
POLLING
%-PLACES.
%-SO
THERE'S
NOTHING
BEHIND
THOSE
%-FEARS.
%-AND THEY
OUGHT TO BE
AVAILABLE
%-AND
HOPEFULLY WILL
BE
FOR
2024
%-SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE
VOICES
%-AND MORE
PEOPLE'S
VOTES
COUNTED%-RATHER THAN
FEWER.
%- >> SO
INTERESTINGLY,
THE
STATE
%-G.O.P. IS NOW
PUSHING
EARLY
%-VOTING,
AS
WE
EXPRESSED
TO ITS
%-CHAIR,
THAT'S
A
SEAT
CHANGE FOR
%-REPUBLICANS,
BUT
NOW THEY'RE%-GOING
TO
HOW
THEY'LL
PROMOTE
OR
%-DISSUADE THE
USE
OF DROP
BOXES,
%-DEPENDING WHAT THE SUPREME
COURT
%-DOES
HERE.
%-IT
SEEMS LIKE
THIS COULD
BE KIND
%-OF COMPLICATED
MESSAGING.%- >> WELL, IT WILL BE,
ALTHOUGH,%-YOU KNOW,
EARLY
VOTING,
BOTH
%-EARLY VOTING
AND
ABSENTEE
%-VOTING, WHICH IS
THE
SAME,
IS --
%-IT BENEFITS
VOTERS
OF
ALL
PER
%-SITUATIONS,
NOT
JUST
LIBERALS
OR
%-DEMOCRATS.
%-EVERYBODY BENEFITS
BY
BEING
ABLE
%-TO
CAST
THEIR
VOTE
WHEN IT'S
%-CONVENIENT
FOR
THEM TO DO
SO.%-AND
SO I
THINK
THE
REPUBLICAN
%-PARTY, AND
IT
SOUNDS
LIKE
%-THEY'RE WIEGZ
UP,
EVEN ON
THE%-DROP
BOXES, IS
THAT THEY
WILL
%-URGE
THEIR
VOTERS
TO
UTILIZE
%-THOSE DROP BOXES.
%-THEY
MAY
CONTINUE
TO
ALSO
RAISE
%-THE
SPECTER OF
FRAUD
IN
CASE
%-THEIR SIDE
DOESN'T
WIN.
%-THAT'S OFTEN WHAT
HAPPENS.%-I AM
CONFIDENT THAT THIS
WILL
%-RESULT IN
SAFE, SECURE
VOTING
%-FOR PEOPLE
ALL OVER
THE
STATE
%-AND THAT IT
WILL
HAVE MORE
%-VOICES AND
MORE
VOTES
THAT WILL
%-BE
ABLE TO
BE
COUNTED AFTER
THE
%-NOVEMBER
ELECTION THAN
FEWER.
%- >> WE MIGHT BE
COUNTING
OUR
%-CHICKENS
BEFORE
THEY'RE
HATCHED
%-BECAUSE THE SUPREME COURT
HAS
%-NOT
YET
RULED ON
THIS, BUT THIS
%-IS THE
SENSE
OF
PEOPLE
LIKE
%-YOURSELF AND OTHERS
INVOLVED IN
%-THE
CASE
AND
FOLLOWING
IT
%-CLOSELY THAT THAT
WAS
WHAT%-LOOKED LIKE
THE
PERSUASION OUT%-OF THE
ORAL
ARGUMENTS.
%- >> YOU
NEVER
WANT
TO
PREDICT
FOR
%-SURE WHAT THE
COURT
WILL
DO,
BUT
%-ONE THING
WE
KNOW ABOUT
THE
%-WISCONSIN SUPREME COURT
NOW IS
%-THAT
IT'S A
LITTLE
EASIER
TO
%-PREDICT
HOW THEY'RE GOING TO
%-RULE
ON ANY
GIVEN ISSUE
THAN
IT
%-USED TO
BE.
%- >> SO ALSO
THIS
WEEK, A
NEAR
%-MELTDOWN IN THE
STATE
SENATE
%-CHAMBERS
DURING
OVERRIDE
VOTES
%-ON GOVERNOR
EVERS'
VETOES.
%- >> SENATOR, YOU ARE OUT
OF
%-ORDER.%-(Gavel Strike) YOU'RE
REQUIRED
%-TO
SIT.%-YOU
SHALL
CARE.
%-YOU'RE OUT OF
ORDER.%-(Gavel
Strike).%- >> YOU SHALL
CARE.
%-THE SENATE
HAS
THE
REPUBLICAN
%-VOTES
TO
OVERRIDE
VETOES BUT
THE
%-ASSEMBLY, IF
CLOSE,
DOES
NOT.%-IN YOUR MIND,
JAY,
GIVEN
THAT,
%-WHY
THE DRAMATIC EFFORT
TO
%-OVERRIDE
THIS
WEEK?
%- >> WELL, FIRST OF
ALL,
WHAT A
%-COMPLETE AND
UTTER
WASTE OF THE
%-TAXPAYERS, THE
VOTERS
OF
%-WISCONSIN'S
TIME
AND
RESOURCES
%-FOR
THE
MAJORITY --
THE
%-REPUBLICAN MAJORITY TO
COME
IN
%-AND DECIDE
THAT THEY
ARE
ONCE
%-AGAIN GOING
TO TRY
TO
OVERRIDE
%-VETOES THAT IS
PREVIOUSLY
HAD
%-BEEN
SUSTAINED
AND
PUT
WISCONSIN%-THROUGH
THIS
EXERCISE.
%-YES, THEY HAD THE
VOTES IN
THE
%-STATE SENATE
AND,
YES, THEY WERE%-ABLE TO
VOTE
TO
OVERRIDE
FIVE OF
%-THE
GOVERNOR'S
BILLS,
BUT
THEY
%-KNEW THAT
THE
ASSEMBLY
DIDN'T%-HAVE THE VOTES TO DO
THAT,
SO IT
%-WAS AN
EXERCISE
IN
POLITICAL
%-THEATRE.%-IT WAS
A
MESSAGE
TO
SHOW
THEIR
%-BASE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO
FIGHT%-FOR THIS
STUFF, BUT IT
DID
%-NOTHING TO
SOLVE
THE
PROBLEMS
%-THAT
WISCONSIN
NEEDS TO
HAVE
%-ADDRESSED AND
IT'S,
AGAIN,
A --
%-I CALL
IT THE
LAST
GASP OF
THE
%-HYPER
PARTISAN
GERRYMANDER.
%-HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE
A
%-LEGISLATURE
THAT
MORE
ACCURATELY
%-REFLECTS
WHAT
WISCONSIN
REALLY%-LOOKS LIKE
AND THAT
WOULD
%-INCLUDE
MORE
BIPARTISAN
%-COOPERATION AND ACTUALLY
WORKING
%-ON THINGS
WISCONSINITES
CARE
%-ABOUT
THAN
THAT KIND
OF
%-POLITICAL
THEATRICS.%- >> ALL
RIGHT.%-JAY
HECK,
THANKS VERY
MUCH.%- >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
%- >> IN ENVIRONMENTAL
NEWS,
SMOKE
%-FROM
CANADIAN
WILDFIRES
DRIFTED
%-DOWN INTO
WISCONSIN THIS
WEEK,
%-PUTTING
EAU CLAIRE
AND
MARANATHA
%-COUNTIES
UNDER
UNHEALTHY
AIR
%-ADVISERS.
%-DROUGHTS, HEAVY FIRES
AND
%-FLOODING ARE
A
DAILY
REMINDER
OF
%-HOW
CLIMATE
CHANGE
IMPACTS
%-PEOPLE'S LIVES AND
WHERE THEY
%-DECIDE
TO
LIVE.
%-SELECT CITIES
LIKE
MADISON HAVE
%-BEEN
DEEMED
CLIMATE
HAVENS
%-BECAUSE IT'S
BELIEVED
THEY'LL
%-SEE
LESS
INTENSE
EFFECTS
OF
%-CLIMATE
CHANGE.
%-HERE AND
NOW
NEXT GENERATION
%-INTERN,
HANNAH
RITVO,
HAS
THIS
%-STORY.
%- >> THE AUGUST WE
LEFT, IT WAS
SO
%-DRY
AND
SO
HOT
THAT THERE
WERE
%-WILDFIRES ACTUALLY
ENCROACHING
%-ON
AUSTIN AS WE WERE
LEAVING,
AS%-WE WERE DRIVING
DOWN THE
%-HIGHWAY.%-IT WAS
LITERALLY JUST
SCORCHED
%-BLACK
EARTH.
%- >> JESSICA
MEDERSON
LEFT
TEXAS
%-12
YEARS AGO
TO
ESCAPE
THE
HEAT.
%- >> EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD
WANTS%-TO
BE
IN
AUSTIN, AND I
LOVED
IT%-A
LOT,
BUT I
HATED
THE
HEAT.
%- >> MEDERSON
IS AMONG
MANY WHO
%-HAVE LEFT THEIR
HOMES
TO ADAPT
%-TO
A
CHANGING
CLIMATE.
%-OVER
THREE
MILLION
AMERICANS
%-HAVE
ALREADY
MOVED DUE
TO
%-CLIMATE
CHANGE.%- >> IF YOU
LOOK AT
THE
U.S.
%-ALONE, LAST
YEAR, THERE
HAD
BEEN
%-$1
BILLION
IN
DISASTERS ALMOST
%-EVERY
TWO,
!
TWO
WEEKS
ON
AVERAGE.%- >> SOME OF
THESE
MIGRANTS COULD
%-BE
HEADED
TO
PLACES
CALLED%-CLIMATE
HAVENS.
%- >> A CLIMATE HAVEN
IS
THE
IDEA%-OF A
PLACE
THAT'S
A
REEF
REFUGE
OR
A
%-SAFE
SPOT FROM
THE
EFFECTS
OF
%-CLIMATE
CHANGE.
%- >> MADISON
IS
CITED
AS
ONE
OF
%-SIX
CLIMATE
HAVENS AROUND
THE%-UNITED
STATES.
%- >> IT'S
HYPOTHESIZED THAT THIS%-AREA COULD BE
A
CLIMATE
HAVEN
%-BECAUSE
IT
MIGHT
ESCAPE
THE
%-WORST
OF
CLIMATE
CHANGE
IMPACTS.
%- >> STEVE
VAVRUS
IS
CODIRECTOR OF
%-THE
WISCONSIN
INITIATIVE
ON
%-CLIMATE CHANGE
IMPACTS.
%- >> MAYBE JUST
AS IMPORTANT
IS
%-WHAT
WE
DON'T
HAVE.
%-WE DON'T
HAVE
HURRICANES, WE
%-DON'T
HAVE
BIG
WILDFIRES AND
%-WE'RE
FAR AWAY FROM
SEA
LEVEL
%-RISE.
%-SO
THE
COMBINATIN
OF
THOSE
%-THINGS HAS
MADE A LOT
OF
PEOPLE
%-SPECULATE THAT
OUR
REGION OF
THE
%-COUNTRY COULD BE
VERY
ATTRACTIVE
%-TO SO
CALLED
CLIMATE
MIGRANTS.
%- >> BUT IT'S
NOT
ALL
SUNSHINE
AND
%-RAINBOWS.
%-VAVRUS SAYS
POTENTIAL
CLIMATE
%-MIGRANTS SHOULD BE AWARE
OF
%-MADISON'S OWN
INCREASING
CLIMATE
%-EXTREMES.%- >> WE
GET A LOT
OF
HEAVY
%-RAINFALLS, WE
GET A LOT OF
%-FLOODING.%-WE
HAD
OFTEN GET HEAT WAVES,
%-TOO, THAT ARE HOT AND HUMID.%-LAST
SUMMER,
WE
HAD
SO
MUCH
%-WILDFIRE SMOKE
AND
THAT CAUGHT
%-PEOPLE
OFF
GUARD.%->>
Reporter:
THE
2010s
WERE
%-WISCONSIN'S
WETTEST
DECADE
ON
%-RECORD
BY
FATHER.
%- >> WE
HAD A LOT
OF
FLOODING
%-EVENTS ACROSS THE STATE IN
THAT
%-DECADE,
AND ONE OF THE
WORST,
%-MAYBE THE
WORST
IN
THAT
DECADE,
%-WAS
IN
2018
IN
AUGUST
IN
DANE
%-COUNTY WHERE
JUST
ABOUT
A
FOOT
%-OF
RAIN FELL
IN 24
HOURS, WHICH%-WAS
A
STATEWIDE
RECORD.
%-AND IT'S AN
INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF
%-RAIN.
%-IT'S MORE
LIKE
HURRICANE
%-AMOUNTS.
%-AND IT
CERTAINLY
CAUSED
TERRIBLE
%-FLOODING.%-IT
EVEN
CAUSED ONE
FATALITY.%->> Reporter: HE
SAYS
THE
%-CONCEPT OF
CLIMATE
HAVENS
%-STARTED
ABOUT SIX
YEARS
AGO.%- >> THIS IS
SOMETHING
THAT I%-DON'T
THINK
SCIENTISTS
%-ANTICIPATED WOULD
DRAW
SO
MUCH
%-PUBLIC
INTEREST.
%-IT'S SOMETHING THAT
IS
REALLY%-KIND
OF
A
GROUND
SWELL
OF
%-INTEREST FROM THE
MASSES
AND
%-THAT'S
CAUGHT
THE
ATTENTION
OF A%-LOT
OF
CLIMATOLOGISTS.%- >> AND IT'S
A
DEBATED
NOTION,
%-BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY REASONS
%-THAT
PEOPLE
MOVE.
%- >> THE COST
OF
LIVING,
THE
%-QUALITY
OF
EDUCATION, THE
%-AVAILABILITY OF
HOUSING.%-THIS
IS A
BIG
ISSUE
IN
MADISON
%-WITH
HIGH
HOUSE
PRICES
AND
%-RENTS.
%- >> AND NOT
EVERYONE
CAN
ESCAPE
%-DISASTER.%- >> THERE ARE COMMUNITIES WHO
ARE
%-UNABLE
TO MOVE
DUE
TO
POVERTY
OR
%-SOCIAL
NORMS OR
DISABILITY
OR
%-AGE.%-WE
HAVE
A
HISTORY
OF
LOCATING
%-POLLUTING INDUSTRIES
IN LOW
%-INCOME AND
MINORITY
IT
%-COMMUNITIES.
%-ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
MOVEMENT
%-STARTED AS A RESULT OF
THAT.
%-SO
THESE ARE
THE
SAME
%-COMMUNITIES THAT ARE
%-DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED
BY
%-CLIMATE
CHANGE.%-SUMUDU ATAPATTU
IS
FROM
%-UW-MADISON.%- >> I
LOOK AT
THE
LINK
BETWEEN
%-HUMAN
RIGHTS
AND
ENVIRONMENTAL
%-ISSUES,
ESPECIALLY
CLIMATE
%-CHANGE.
%- >> ATAPATTU
SAYS
THERE'S
%-ANECDOTAL
EVIDENCE THAT
%-INDIVIDUALS ARE MOVING
TO
%-MADISON DUE TO THE
IMPACTS
OF
%-CLIMATE
CHANGE,
BUT
NOT
ENOUGH
%-DATA
YET
TO
TRULY
KNOW.
%-NONETHELESS,
CLIMATE
MIGRATION
%-IS
ALREADY
HAPPENING AROUND
THE
%-WORLD.%- >> SOME COMMUNITIES ARE
BEING
%-RELOCATED AS WE
SPEAK.
%-SOME
COMMUNITIES
ARE
RELOCATION
%-AND
PEOPLE
ARE
MOVING.%- >> SHE SAYS
CLIMATE
CHANGE IS
A
%-GLOBAL PROBLEM
WITH
LOCAL
%-IMPACTS.
%- >> IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
US
TO
%-REALIZE THAT THE
DECISIONS
WE
%-TAKE WILL
HAVE
REPERCUSSIONS%-THOUSANDS OF
MILES
AWAY.
%-MORE
ISLAND STATES
AND
PEOPLE%-WHO ARE LIVING
THERE, THEY WILL
%-BE THE GROUND
ZERO
OF
CLIMATE
%-CHANGE
BECAUSE
THEY
MIGHT
LOSE
%-EVERYTHING THEY
HAVE,
INCLUDING
%-THEIR
COUNTRY.
%-SO WE
DON'T
REALLY
KNOW
WHERE
%-THOSE
PEOPLE
WILL
GO
AND
WHAT
%-WILL
HAPPEN
TO
THOSE
COUNTRIES.
%- >> ATAPATTU
SAYS
THE
MOST
%-IMPORTANT THING WE CAN
DO
IS
%-EDUCATE OURSELVES
AND
PREPARE
%-SUFFICIENTLY FOR
DISASTERS
AND
%-MIGRATION.%-AND
CITIES,
ESPECIALLY
THOSE
%-DEEMED
CLIMATE
HAVENS, MUST
BE
%-READY TO
ACCOMMODATE AN
INFLUX
%-OF
POTENTIAL
CLIMATE
MIGRANTS.
%-EXPERTS
ESTIMATE MORE THAN ONE
%-BILLION PEOPLE COULD
BE
BUSY
%-PLACED IN THE
NEXT
25
YEARS
DUE
%-TO
CHANGING
WEATHER.
%- >> CAN
THEIR
INFRASTRUCTURE%-HANDLE A LOT
MORE
PEOPLE?
%-THESE ARE
THINGS
THAT
%-COMMUNITIES NEED TO BE
THINKING
%-ABOUT
ANYWAY.
%- >> SOME CITIES
HAVE
ALREADY
%-BEGUN
PROMOTING
THEMSELVES
AS
%-CLIMATE
HAVENS.
%- >> LAKE
SUPERIOR,
BIG
ENOUGH
FOR
%-EVERYONE.
%- >> BUFFALO AND DULUTH
ARE
TWO
%-COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE GONE ALL
%-IN
WITH
ADVERTISING
AND
%-ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO COME
TO
%-THEIR
COMMUNITIES
AND
HOPEFULLY%-THEY HAVE THE ABILITY
TO
TAKE
IN%-A LOT
OF
RESIDENTS
FAIRLY
%-QUICKLY.
%- >> MADISON HASN'T PROMOTED
%-ITSELF THAT
WAY,
BUT
VAVRUS
SAYS%-IT
IS
IMPORTANT THAT THE
CITY
%-GET
READY
FOR
POTENTIAL CLIMATE
%-MIGRANTS, AS IT'S
CLEAR
THE
%-MIDWEST MAY
BE MORE
IMMUNE
TO
%-SEVERE CLIMATE
IMPACTS
THAN
%-OTHER
REGIONS.
%- >> BUT, AGAIN,
PEOPLE NEED
TO
%-RECOGNIZE THAT WE'VE GOT
OUR
OWN
%-CHALLENGES WHEN IT
COMES
TO
%-CLIMATE
AND
EXTREME
WEATHER%-HERE,
TOO,
THAT
THERE'S
REALLY
%-NO
SAFE
PLACE FROM THE
IMPACTS
%-OF
CLIMATE
CHANGE.
%- >> FOR "HERE AND
NOW,"
I'M
%-HANNAH
RITVO
IN
MADISON.
%- >> HAHN
RITVO
IS
GRADUATING
FROM
%-UW-MADISON
AND
COMPLETES HER
%-WORK HERE THIS
WEEK.
%-WE
WISH
HER
LUCK
ON
HER
NEXT
%-ENDEAVORS AND
THANK
HER
FOR
HER
%-CONTRIBUTIONS.%-THE DEAN
OF
MADISON
ENGINEERING
%-SCHOOL
HAS
ANNOUNCED HE'S
%-STEPPING DOWN
AFTER
11
YEARS IN%-THE
ROLE.
%-THE
SCHOOL HAS
BEEN AT THE%-CENTER OF
A
POLITICAL
STORM
OVER%-THE LAST
YEAR
AS
REPUBLICAN
%-LEGISLATORS
HELD
UP
APPROVAL OF
%-THE
NEW
ENGINEERING
BUILDING IN
%-A
FIGHT
OVER DIVERSITY, EQUITY%-AND INCLUSION PROGRAMS AT
THE
%-UNIVERSITY.%-HERE AND
NOW
SENIOR
POLITICAL
%-REPORTER, ZAC
SCHULTZ,
SAT DOWN
%-WITH
I
REPUBLICAN ROBINSON
TO
%-TALK
ABOUT
WHY
HE'S
STEPPING
%-DOWN NOW
AND WHAT THE
NEW
%-BUILDING
MEANS
FOR
STUDENTS AND
%-THE
STATE.
%- >> I FELT THIS
WAS A
GOOD
TIME
%-BECAUSE THINGS AT THE MOMENT
ARE
%-VERY
POSITIVE IN THE
COLLEGE,
%-THE
TRAJECTORIES ARE
ALL IN THE
%-RIGHT
DIRECTION.
%-SO THIS
IS A
GOOD
TIME.
%- >> YOUR
SCHOOL
HAS
OBVIOUSLY
%-BEEN IN THE
SCHOOL THE LAST
YEAR
%-HAVING TO DO WITH
THE
NEW
%-BUILDING
AND SOME OF
THE
%-POLITICAL
CONTROVERSIES.%-LET'S TALK ABOUT
THE
BUILDING
%-ITSELF FIRST AND WHAT
IT
WILL
%-MEAN, THE ABILITY
TO
EVOLVE INTO
%-THE
FUTURE, WHAT
THE
EDUCATION
%-RESEARCH
DOES.
%- >> YES.%-SO
THE
NEW
BUILDING
WILL
TAKE A%-LITTLE
BIT
LONGER
THAN WE
WERE
%-EXPECTING TO
GET-APPROVED, BUT
%-THE GOOD
THING
IS IT
DID
GET
%-APPROVED.%-WHAT DOES IT DO FOR
THE STATE OF
%-WISCONSIN?
%-WE'RE GOING TO
BE
ABLE
TO
TAKE
%-MORE
STUDENTS.
%-RIGHT?%-THERE
IS A
HIGH
DEMAND AT
THE
%-MOMENT
FOR
STUDENTS TO
GET
AN
%-ENGINEERING
DEGREE FROM
THE%-UNIVERSITY
OF
MADISON.
%-WE'RE GOING TO
GROW
TO AT
LEAST
%-5500
GRADUATES.
%-THAT'S GOING
TO
MEET SOME OF
THE
%-STUDENT DEMAND.
%-IT'S
ALSO GOING TO
HELP
US
MEET
%-DEMAND FROM INDUSTRIES IN
THE%-STATE OF WISCONSIN
FOR
MORE
%-ENGINEERS.%-AS I TALKED TO
THE
COMPANIES,
%-THEY'RE SAYING WHEN
WILL
YOU
%-PRODUCE MORE
ENGINEERS, BECAUSE%-WE WANT
TO
HIRE
THEM
AND THEY%-HAVE
JOBS
FOR
THEM.
%-SO THE NEW BUILDING
WILL
ENABLE
%-THAT
PART.
%-IT'S
ALSO GOING TO
ALLOW
US
TO
%-ACTUALLY
EXPAND
OUR
RESEARCH.%-WE'LL BE
ABLE
TO
ATTRACT
NEW
%-FACULTY WITH A
BUILDING.%-THEY WILL
BRING
IN
NEW
AREAS
AND
%-ENVIRONMENTAL
SUSTAINABILITY,
%-A.I.
MACHINE
LEARNING,
%-AUTONOMOUS
VEHICLES,
ROBOTICS,
%-ALL AREAS THAT
ARE IMPORTANT
TO
%-WISCONSIN-BASED INDUSTRIES AND%-TO THE
NATION.
%-SO
CHANGE
OUR RESEARCH PORTFOLIO
%-IS GOING TO
ALLOW
US TO
DO
THE
%-GROWTH THAT'S
NEEDED,
SO I THINK
%-THESE ARE
GOOD
THINGS THAT ARE
%-HAPPENING.%- IT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE
STATE.%- >> ON THE POLITICAL
SIDE,
WERE
%-YOU
SURPRISED
WHEN
THE
BUILDING%-BECAME KIND OF
A
POLITICAL
%-FOOTBALL IN
THE
BUDGET?
%- >> YES.%-IT DID
TAKE
LONGER, AND SO IT
%-WAS A
SURPRISE.
%-BUT IF WE
LOOK
AT
WHAT REALLY
REALLY
%-HAPPENED, DURING
THAT
WHOLE
%-PERIOD,
THE
SUPPORT THAT
WE
GOT
%-FROM COMPANIES IN
WISCONSIN, THE
%-PEOPLE OF
WISCONSIN, WAS
%-ACTUALLY
JUST
AMAZING.
%-THESE
WEREN'T
ALL
ENGINEERING
%-COMPANIES OR
ENGINEERING
ALUM.%-IT
WAS
PEOPLE,
COMPANIES SAYING
%-WE
NEED
MORE
ENGINEERS.
%-UW-MADISON IS PRIMED
TO
ATTRACT
%-MORE ENGINEERING
STUDENTS.
%-THAT
WILL
MEET
DEMAND
AND
THEY
%-ACTUALLY VOICE
THEIR
SUPPORT FOR
%-THE
BUILDING.
%-SO
I'D LIKE
TO
JUST TAKE
THIS
%-OPPORTUNITY TO
THANK ALL
OF
THEM
%-BECAUSE I CAN'T THANK
THEM ALL
%-IN
PERSON,
SO THIS
IS
A
GREAT
%-OPPORTUNITY FOR
ME TO
SAY THANK
%-YOU
FOR ALL OF
THE
SUPPORT THAT%-YOU GAVE
US TO
GET
THIS
NEW
%-BUILDING.
%-WE WON'T
DISAPPOINT.%-WE WILL
LIVE UP
TO
OUR END OF
%-THE
BARGAIN.%-WE WILL
PRODUCE
MORE ENGINEERS
%-AND
DEVELOP GREAT
RESEARCH.%- >> SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE
%-UW WAS
ASKED
TO
GIVE
UP
OR
TO
%-CHANGE
HAD TO
DO
WITH
DEI.%-YOU HAVE
A
VICE
CHANCELLOR
FOR
%-DEI, YOU
HAVE A
VERY
DIVERSE
%-STUDENT
BODY IN
THE
ENGINEERING
%-SCHOOL.%-HOW DID
THOSE ALL
FACTOR
IN
%-TOGETHER IN TERMS OF WHAT
THE
%-STUDENTS FELT ABOUT SOME
OF
%-THOSE
SACRIFICES?
%- >> OUR
COMMITMENT,
THE
CAMPUS
%-COMMITMENT TO
PROVIDE
AN
%-ENVIRONMENT THAT'S
INCLUSIVE AND
%-WELCOMING
FOR
ALL
CONTINUES.
%-THAT'S
NOT GOING
TO
CHANGE.%-ALL OF
US
WANT TO
WORK IN
AN
%-ENVIRONMENT THAT WE
ENJOY
%-WORKING
IN, THAT
WE
ENJOY
%-LEARNING
IN,
AND
IT'S
ABSOLUTELY
%-ESSENTIAL THAT WE
DO
THAT
HERE%-IN
THE COLLEGE
OF
ENGINEERING.%-WHEN I
TALK TO
INDUSTRIES,
THEY%-TELL ME
THAT IT'S
IMPORTANT
THAT
%-THEY
HIRE
A
DIVERSE
WORKFORCE.
%-THEY
SAY THAT
THE
PRODUCTS THAT%-WE GET AT THE
END
ARE
BETTER
IF
%-THEY
BRING
IN
DIFFERENT
%-PERSPECTIVES, AND SO
WE
NEED TO
%-DO
THE
SAME.%-THE
OTHER
PART I
THINK
THAT'S
%-IMPORTANT IS THAT ENGINEERING IS
%-FACING A
CHALLENGE
IN
ATTRACTING
%-MORE
PEOPLE.%-WE HAVE
SHORTAGES IN
THE NUMBER
%-OF
ENGINEERS THAT WE
PRODUCE.
%-IF I
THINK
WHAT'S
COMING WITH
%-THE
CHIP
ACT AND
THE
%-MANUFACTURING COME BACK TO
THE
%-U.S., THE CLEAN
ENERGY,
%-SUSTAINABILITY, WE'RE GOING TO%-NEED MORE
AND
MORE
ENGINEERS
%-THAN WE CAN
PRODUCE, NOT
ONLY%-HERE IN
WISCONSIN,
BUT
%-NATIONWIDE.
%-SO ONE OF
THE
CHALLENGES I
SEE,%-ONE OF THE
HOPES IS
THAT WE CAN
%-GET
MORE
PEOPLE
EXCITED
ABOUT
%-ENGINEERING AND SAYING THIS IS
A
%-GREAT
CAREER
PATH BECAUSE I
CAN
%-HAVE AN
IMPACT
ON
SOCIETY IF
I%-TAKE
THIS
CAREER.
%-SO
WE
NEED TO
DO ALL
OF
THESE
%-THINGS.
%- >> FOR MORE ON
THIS AND
OTHER
%-ISSUES FACING
WISCONSIN,
VISIT
%-OUR
WEBSITE
AT
PBSWISCONSIN.ORG
%-AND THEN
CLICK ON
THE
NEWS
TAB.
%-THAT'S OUR
PROGRAM
FOR
TONIGHT.
%-I'M FREDERICA
FREYBERG.%-HAVE
A
GOOD
WEEKEND.
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