%-DEEP
POCKETS
A
THREAT?%- >> I
THINK
THE
THREE
BIG
%-CHALLENGES
THAT
ERIC
HOVDE
HAS,
%-FIRST, IS
THAT
HE'S
FACING
AN
%-INCREDIBLY
FORMIDABLE CANDIDATE
%-IN TAMMY
BALDWIN
WHO
HAS
SUPPORT
%-FOR
WHAT SHE HAS
DONE FOR
THE%-STATE OF
WISCONSIN, THE
A.C.A.
%-AND
LETTING
26-YEAR-OLDS BEING
%-ON THEIR
PARENTS'
HEALTHCARE,
%-THE
ISSUE
OF
ABORTION
AND
BY
%-AMERICA.
%-THINGS THAT WERE
PUT
IN
PLACE
%-WITH
TRUMP'S
SIGNATURE, MADE
%-PERMANENT
BY PRESIDENT
BIDEN.
%-HOVDE,
SO
THAT'S
HIS FIRST
%-CHALLENGE.
%-HIS
OTHER
TWO
CHALLENGES ARE A%-LITTLE
BIT, YOU
KNOW,
HE'S
VERY
%-CLEARLY RUNNING
HIS
OWN
%-CAMPAIGN, AND
ANY
CANDIDATE WHO%-IS
TRYING TO
RUN
THEIR
OWN
%-CAMPAIGN IS A
DISASTER
IN
%-WAITING.%-AND THE
THIRD
POINT I
WOULD
SAY%-IS
THAT
HE'S
TRYING -- AS
HE'S
%-TRYING TO
CREATE
A
CULT
OF
%-PERSONALITY AROUND HIMSELF
AND
%-THERE'S ONLY
ONE
CULT
FIGURE IN
%-THE G.O.P.
AND
THAT'S
TRUMP.%- >> WE'RE GOING TO
AGREE ON
THE
%-FIRST
PART, TAMMIE
IS
GOING TO
%-BE
TOUGH.
%-ONLY
ONE
STATEWIDE INCUMBENT
%-LOST
ANYWHERE IN THE
COUNTRY
IN
%-2022 AND THAT WAS
THE
GOVERNOR
%-OF
NEVADA.
%-SO
BEATING
A
STATEWIDE
INCUMBENT
%-IS A
VERY
HIGH
MOUNTAIN
TO
%-CLIMB.
%-HAVING
SAID
THAT, I
THINK
ERIC
%-HOVDE
%- >> THE FOLLOWING
PROGRAM IS
A%-PBS WISCONSIN
ORIGINAL
%-PRODUCTION.
%- >> YOU'RE
WATCHING "HERE AND
%-NOW"
2024
ELECTION
COVERAGE.
%- >> HELLO,
MILWAUKEE.
%- >> BATTLEGROUND
WISCONSIN.%-PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN MAKES
HIS
%-SECOND VISIT TO THE
STATE
THIS
%-YEAR.%-AND THE
STATE SUPREME COURT
%-TAKES A
SWING
AT
BRINGING
BACK
%-BALLOT
DROP
BOXES.
%-I'M FREDERICA
FREYBERG.
%-TONIGHT
ON "HERE AND
NOW,"%-SENIOR POLITICAL REPORTER ZAC%-SCHULTZ ON THE
STATE SUPREME
%-COURT RECONSIDERING
ABSENTEE
%-BALLOT
DROP
BOXES.
%-CRITICAL
SHORTAGES
OF
LICENSED
%-PRACTICAL NURSES
IN
WISCONSIN
%-HOSPITALS, LESSONS
LEARNED FOUR
%-YEARS AFTER
THE
COVID
EMERGENCY
%-WAS
DECLARED
IN
WISCONSIN,
AND
%-POLITICAL
PANELIST,
ROSS
%-McCOSHEN, SAYS
THE
%-PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN IS
ON.
%-IT'S "HERE AND NOW"
FOR
MARCH
%-15.
%- >> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS%-PROVIDED BY THE FOCUS FUND FOR%-JOURNALISM AND FRIENDS OF PBS%-WISCONSI
N
.
%- >> WE START
TONIGHT WITH THE
%-QUESTION OF
WHETHER
THE
%-WIDESPREAD USE
OF
ABSENTEE
%-BALLOT
DROP
BOXES WILL
BE COMING
%-BACK
FOR
THE
NOVEMBER
ELECTION.
%- >> THIS
WEEK,
WISCONSIN'S
%-LIBERAL
MAJORITY SUPREME
COURT
%-DECIDED
TO
CONSIDER
AN
APPEAL TO
%-THE
COURT'S
RULING
OF LESS
THAN%-TWO
YEARS
AGO THAT
THE
DROP
%-BOXES OR
ILLEGAL
AND
THAT
%-BALLOTS MUST
BE
PERSONALLY
%-DELIERED TO
THE
MUNICIPAL
%-CLERK.
%-THE
COURT'S
CONSERVATIVE
DISSENT
%-HARSHLY CONDEMNED
THE
NEW
ORDER
%-CALLING
IT,
QUOTE,
ANOTHER
%-SHAMELESS
EFFORT BY
THE
MAJORITY
%-TO
READJUST
THE
BALANCE
OF
%-POLITICAL POWER
IN
WISCONSIN.
%--APPROVED BY
THE
STATE
ELECTIONS
%-COMMISSION FOR
USE
IN
2020%-DURING
THE
COVID
PANDEMIC, MORE
%-THAN
500
ABSENTEE
BALLOT
DROP
%-BOXES
ACROSS
WISCONSIN ALLOWED
%-CONTACTLESS
VOTING,
BUT
WHEN%-DONALD TRUMP
LOST
THE
ELECTION,
%-HIS BLAME
INCLUDED
THE
BOXES,
%-CASTING
DOUBT ON
THE
RESULTS.
%-IN
2022,
THE
THEN-CONSERVATIVE%-MAJORITY WISCONSIN
HIGH
COURT
%-RULED THEY
WERE
ILLEGAL
FOR
%-FUTURE
ELECTIONS.
%-FAST
FORWARD
TO
TODAY
AND
%-THEY'RE UP
FOR
CONSIDERATION
%-AGAIN.
%-HERE AND
NOW SENIOR POLITICAL%-REPORTER ZAC SCHULTZ IS
HERE
%-WITH
MORE.
%-HI,
ZAC.
%- >> HELLO,
FRED.
%- >> SO
HOW
UNUSUAL IS
IT FOR
A
%-COURT TO
REACH
BACK
TO
DECIDED
%-LAW AND
CONSIDER
AN
APPEAL?
%- >> WELL, IT
DOESN'T
HAPPEN
VERY
%-OFTEN, BUT THERE ARE
SOME
HIGH
%-PROFILE
EXAMPLES.%-ON A
NATIONAL
SCALE,
DOBBS
%-OVERTURNING ROE VERSUS WADE
JUST%-A COUPLE OF
YEARS
AGO
IS
%-OBVIOUSLY A
PRETTY
BIG
ONE
THAT
%-HAS POLITICAL
RAMIFICATIONS,
BUT
%-THERE'S
ACTUALLY
PRECEDENT HERE%-IN
WISCONSIN.
%-BACK IN
2016,
THE
CONSERVATIVE%-SUPREME COURT
RULED THAT
THE
%-LEGISLATURE
HAD
OVERSIGHT OVER
%-THE DEPARTMENT
OF
PUBLIC
%-INSTRUCTION IN THE
STATE
%-SUPERINTENDENT.%-THEY DID NOT
HAVE
OVERSIGHT.%-FLASH
FORWARD JUST A COUPLE
OF
%-YEARS LATER AND
THE
MAKEUP
%-CHANGED WE KNOW
JUSTICE KELLY
%-JOINED THE
COURT,
SO
THEY
%-OVERTURNED AN
EXAMPLE.%-WHEN I
ASKED
HIM
WHY, HE
SAID%-THAT WAS
BECAUSE
THAT ORIGINAL
%-DECISION
WAS
FRACTURED, IT
%-WASN'T
A
SOLID
MAJORITY THAT
%-MADE IT
UP.%-IT
WAS
CONCURRING
OPINIONS.%-AND THE
REASON THAT'S
IMPORTANT%-IN THIS
EXAMPLE,
FREDERICA, IS
%-BECAUSE
THE
TEAGUEN
DECISION
%-FROM
JULY
2022 WAS
ALSO A
VERY
%-FRACTURED MAJORITY
OPINION.%-IN THAT
CASE,
JUSTICE
BRIAN
%-HAGEDORN
JOINED
THE
MAJORITY FOR
%-ONLY
ABOUT
HALF OF
THE
ACTUAL
%-MAJORITY
OPINION.
%-HE
CONCURRED
WITH
ONLY
30
OF
87
%-PARAGRAPHS IN
THE
ENTIRE
%-DECISION.%-THERE WERE
MULTIPLE
CONCURRENCES%-AND SO
THE
ONLY THING
THAT
%-STANDS OUT
OF
THAT
ORIGINAL
%-DECISION IS THAT
DROP
BOXES
ARE
%-NOT VALID
IN
STATE
LAW
BECAUSE%-THEY
ARE
NOT
ALLOWED,
BUT
%-THEY'RE
ALSO
NOT
ALLOWED,
%-AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DECISION
IS%-GOING
TO TAKE A
LOOK
AT
AGAIN.
%- >> SO I CAN
SEE
HOW THIS IS
RIPE
%-FOR THAT
APPEAL, BUT
THE
%-CONSERVATIVE DISSENT TO THIS%-ORDER
SAYS
THAT
BY
GRANTING
IT,
%-QUOTE, THE
MAJORITY
AIMS TO
%-INCREASE
THE
ELECTORAL
PROCESS
%-EXPECTS
OF
ITS
PREFERRED
%-POLITICAL
PARTY.%-IS IT
PROVEN
THAT
BALLOT
DROP
%-BOXES HELPED
DEMOCRATS?
%- >> WELL,
CERTAINLY
IN
2020,
MORE
%-DEMOCRATS TOOK
ADVANTAGE
OF DROP
%-BOXES AND
ABSENTEE
VOTING
THAN
%-REPUBLICANS
DID.
%-HISTORICALLY, THAT'S NOT
ALWAYS
%-THE
CASE.
%-DIFFERENT STATES
VOTE
LARGELY
BY
%-MAIL.%-DONALD TRUMP
HIMSELF
VOTED
%-ABSENTEE
IN
FLORIDA
IN
PRIOR
%-PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTIONS,
BUT IT
%-WAS TRUMP
WHO
MADE
THE
CASE
%-AGAINST
ABSENTEE
VOTING
IN
2020%-AND
THE
LEAD-UP
TO THAT
ELECTION
%-THAT
CONVINCED A LOT OF
%-REPUBLICANS NOT TO
TRUST
THAT
%-PROCESS AND
THEN IT
WAS
TRUMP%-AFTER THE ELECTION THAT
MADE
IT
%-PART OF
HIS
CONSPIRACY
THEORIES
%-ABOUT
FRAUD IN
THE
ELECTORATE
%-THAT
TURNED
REPUBLICANS
AGAINST
%-IT.
%-BUT
IMPORTANTLY,
REPUBLICANS,%-INCLUDING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
%-OF
WISCONSIN, IS
TRYING
TO SHIFT
%-BACK TO
ABSENTEE
BALLOTING FOR
%-THIS
ELECTION.
%-THEY'VE MADE A
BIG
PART
OF
THEIR
%-PLATFORM BECAUSE
THEY
UNDERSTAND
%-IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN
%-TRYING
TO
WIN
ELECTION.%- >> SO AS
THE
CONSERVATIVE
%-MINORITY ON THE
WISCONSIN'S
HIGH
%-COURT
THINKS
THAT IT'S
A
%-POLITICAL KIND
OF
DECISION ON
%-THE
PART OF
THE
LIBERAL
%-MAJORITY.
%-WOULDN'T
OUTLAWING
THESE
BOXES
%-MEAN
THE
FORMER
CONSERVATIVE%-MAJORITY WAS AIMING
TO
INCREASE
%-THE
ELECTORAL
PROSPECTS
OF
ITS
%-PREFERRED POLITICAL
PARTY?
%- >> WELL, CERTAINLY,
THE
DECISION%-FELL IN LINE
WITH WHAT
THE
%-STANDARD
BEARER, AT THAT
TIME,
%-FORM PRESIDENT TRUMP
WANTED,
AND%-WHAT
THE
MAGA
OPINION
THROUGHOUT%-MOST OF THE CUB
WAS, IS
THAT
%-DROP
BOXES
ARE
RIPE FOR
FRAUD.
%-THAT
CERTAINLY
HASN'T BEEN
%-PROVEN
IN
MOST
CASES.
%-IT CERTAINLY
WASN'T
PROVEN
IN
%-WISCONSIN.%-THERE'S ARGUMENTS THAT
PLACES
IN
%-RURAL
WISCONSIN
WOULD
BENEFIT
%-JUST AS
MUCH
FROM
DROP
BOXES
%-BECAUSE CLERKS
AREN'T
ALWAYS
%-PRESENTLY FOR
SOMEONE TO
COME IN%-AND
VOTE
ABSENTEE IN
PERSON
%-EARLY
AND
THEN
DROP
BOX WOULD
BE
%-A NICE
EASY
WAY
FOR
SOMEONE TO
%-DROP
OFF A
BALLOT.
%-RURAL
WISCONSIN
BEING
SLIGHTLY
%-MORE
CONSERVATIVE
THAN
URBAN
%-WISCONSIN.
%- >> RIGHT.%-WHAT ABOUT THE
ISSUE
OF
SOWING
%-CHAOS IN
NOVEMBER
FOR
ELECTION
%-OFFICIALS HAVING
TO
GIVE
%-GUIDANCE TO
CLERKS?
%-HOW
LIKELY IS
IT THAT
THIS
WOULD
%-CONTINUE TO BE
LITIGATED?
%- >> WELL,
IT'S
UNLIKELY IN
THE
%-SENSE THAT
THE SUPREME
COURT
IS
%-FAST-TRACKING
THIS.%-THEY WANT
ORAL
ARGUMENTS BY
MAY,
%-LIKELY A
DECISION
BY
JUNE,
SO
%-THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF
TIME
%-BEFORE WE
GET TO
THE
AUGUST
%-PRIMARY
BEFORE
A
DECISION WOULD
%-HAVE TO COME
UP
IN
THAT
CASE
SO
%-A DECISION WOULD BE
IN
PLACE.
%-IT'S UNLIKELY IT COULD
BE
%-APPEALED TO
THE UNITED STATES%-SUPREME COURT SO
THAT
DECISION%-WOULD BE
FINAL,
BUT
THERE'S
%-ALWAYS LAWSUITS IN
THE LAST%-COUPLE OF MONTHS
BEFORE
AN
%-ELECTION.
%- >> HOW
SURPRISING IS
IT
THAT
%-IT'S
FAST-TRACKED IN THIS
WAY?%-I
MEAN,
I
GET
IT
THAT
THEY'RE
UP
%-AGAINST
THE
NOVEMBER
ELECTION,
%-BUT
THIS SUPREME
COURT
SEEMS TO
%-BE
MAKING
SOME
MOVES
DIFFERENTLY
%-THAN THE
LAST
COURT.%- >> THAT'S
RIGHT.%-WITH
THE
LIBERAL
MAJORITY TOOK
%-OVER,
THEY
CHANGING SOME OF THE
%-ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS TO MAKE%-SURE
THAT
THINGS
COULD
GO
ALONG
%-SMOOTHLY AND QUICKLY
IN A LOT
OF
%-THESE
EXPEDITED
CASES.
%-IN
PART,
THAT'S
BECAUSE
%-TRADITIONALLY
THE CHIEF
JUSTICE%-OF THE SUPREME
COURT
HAS A LOT
%-OF
POWER
OVER
HOW
FAST
DECISIONS
%-MOVE
ALONG
AND
THAT SUPREME
%-COURT CHIEF
JUSTICE IS
A
%-CONSERVATIVE.%-SO THE
LIBERALS HAVE
CREATED A
%-NEW PROCESS
TO
MAKE
THINGS
%-FASTER, IN THIS
CASE,
EXPEDITING%-THIS
CASE
SO
THAT THEY
CAN HAVE%-A DECISION BEFORE THE
END OF
%-THIS
TERM,
WHICH WILL
AFFECT
THE
%-FALL
ELECTION.%- >> ZAC
SCHULTZ,
THANKS VERY
%-MUCH.%- >> THANK
YOU.%- >> AS TO
ABSENTEE
BALLOTS
IN
ITS
%-FINAL SESSION
DAY,
THE
STATE
%-SENATE DECLINED
TO
TAKE UP
THE
%-BILL
TO
LET
CLERKS
GET
A
HEAD
%-START
ON
COUNTING
THEM.
%-ALSO,
EIGHT MORE
OF TONY
EVERS
%-NOMINEES
WERE
REJECTED TO
BOARDS
%-AND
COMMISSIONS,
INCLUDING
TWO%-ON
THE
UW BOARD OF
REGENTS.
%-IN OTHER
BUSINESS, EVERS
ONCE
%-AGAINST
URGING
THE
LEGISLATURE
%-TO
RELEASE
$15
MILLION
TO
HELP
%-SUPPORT
HEALTHCARE WITH
THE
%-COMING
CLOSURE
OF
HOSPITALS IN
%-EAU CLAIRE
AND CHIPPEWA
FALLS,
%-CLOSURES
THE
WISCONSIN
HOSPITAL
%-ASSOCIATION
CALLS
UNTHINKABLE,%-BUT
PART
OF
FEARED
RESULTS
FROM
%-STAFF
SHORTAGES
AND
FINANCIAL
%-PRESSURES.%-THE ASSOCIATION
IS JUST
OUT
WITH
%-ITS
2024
WISCONSIN
HEALTHCARE
%-WORKFORCE
REPORT,
WHICH
%-DESCRIBES
A
CRITICAL
CONDITION.
%-ANN
ZENK FROM
THE
WISCONSIN
%-HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION JOINS
US
%-NOW.
%-THANKS VERY MUCH FOR
BEING
HERE.%- >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
%- >> SO
IN
WHAT HOSPITAL
POSITIONS
%-ARE
THE
SHORTAGES
MOST
ACUTE?%- >> I
THINK
THE
BIGGEST
IMPACT%-RIGHT
NOW,
BECAUSE
THERE'S
SUCH
%-A LARGE
PART
OF
OUR
WORKFORCE,
%-IS
THE
REGISTERED
NURSE
%-SHORTAGE.
%- >> AND
SO WHAT
HAPPENS FOR
THE
%-DAY-TO-DAYCARE OF
PATIENTS
WHEN
%-A
HOSPITAL
IS
SHORT
OF
THOSE
%-NURSES?
%- >> FOR
NURSING,
REGISTERED
%-NURSES
CAN FILL
LOTS
OF
ROLES
ON
%-HEALTHCARE TEAMS.
%-SO
A
SHORTAGE
LEAVES LOTS
OF
%-GAPS.
%-THAT
MIGHT
MEAN
STAFF
WORKING
IN
%-ROLES
BESIDES
THE
ONES
THEY
%-NORMALLY
DO.
%-IT MIGHT
MEAN THEY
HAVE TO
WORK
%-IN
DIFFERENT
AREAS.
%-THEY'RE CERTAINLY
BEING
ASKED TO
%-WORK
EXTRA
SHIFTS
OR
DIFFERENT
%-SHIFTS.%- >> AND DOES THAT
AFFECT
PATIENT
%-CARE?%-WE HOPE
NOT.
%-RIGHT?%-BECAUSE THEY'RE
TRYING TO DO
%-EVERYTHING THEY CAN
DO
TO
FILL,
%-BUT WHAT ABOUT PATIENT
CARE?
%- >> YEP.
%-YOU'RE
EXACTLY
RIGHT.
%-HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS IN
%-HOSPITALS, IT'S OUR
JOB
TO MAKE
%-SURE
PATIENTS GET
THE
CARE
THEY
%-úNEED,
BUT
WHEN THERE
ARE
STAFF
%-SHORTAGES
OR
INTERRUPTIONS IN
%-THE
CONTINUUM OF
CARE,
PATIENTS
%-WAIT
LONGER,
THEY MIGHT
HAVE
TO
%-TRAVEL
FARTHER
FOR
CARE,
THEY
%-MIGHT
EVEN END UP
COMING TO
THE
%-EMERGENCY
DEPARTMENT.%- >> WHY HASN'T
THE
STAFFING
%-SITUATION RIGHTED
ITSELF
%-FOLLOWING
COVID?
%- >> THERE'S SO
MANY
FACTORS.
%-I'D
SAY
THE
PREDOMINANT
ONE, AND
%-UNFORTUNATELY ONE THAT
WE
REALLY
%-CAN'T
INFLUENCE
MUCH,
IS
WHAT
WE%-CALL
THE
SILVER
TSUNAMI, THE
%-SURGES
OF
RETIREMENT
AS
BABY
%-BOOMERS AGE.
%-THAT'S A
BIG
GENERATION.%-THE OTHER
ISSUE
FOR
HEALTHCARE%-IS
THAT NOT
ONLY
IS
OUR
%-AVAILABLE
WORKFORCE
SHRINKING
%-BUT
HEALTHCARE
DEMAND
IS
%-ESCALATING.%- >> THAT'S
RIGHT.
%-SO AS FAR
AS
THAT SILVER
%-TSUNAMI, AS YOU
REFERRED TO
IT,
%-HOW
LIKELY IS
IT
THAT
PROGRAMS
%-PRODUCING
A SCHOOL
OF NURSING
%-PIPELINE
AND
CAREER
ADVANCEMENT
%-CAN KEEP
PACE
WITH
THOSE
%-RETIREMENTS?%-BECAUSE I KNOW SOME
OF THOSE
%-PROGRAMS
ARE
NOW
REALLY
CRANKING
%-UP.
%- >> YEP.%-FOR
SHORTER-TERM
CREDENTIALS,%-THOSE FRONTLINE
TECHNICAL
%-POSITIONS THAT
TAKE
A
YEAR
OR
%-TWO
TO
ACHIEVE,
WE MIGHT BE
ABLE
%-TO
CLOSE
THOSE
GAPS.
%-FOR
LONGER-TERM
CREDENTIALS
LIKE
%-NURSES
AND
PHYSICIANS,
WE
JUST
%-CAN'T
KEEP
PACE
WITH
THE
%-INCREASED
HEALTHCARE
DEMAND
AND
%-THERE'S LOTS OF
BABY
BOOM
NURSES
%-FROM
THE
'70s
AND
'80s WHO
%-ARE
NOW GOING
TO
RETIRE.
%-SO IT'S KIND
OF
UNLIKELY
THAT
%-OUR
WORKFORCE
CAN
GROW
FAST
%-ENOUGH.
%- >> YOU SPOKE TO
THIS AS
WELL,
%-BUT ALL OF
THIS
IS
HAPPENING IN
%-A
STATE,
WISCONSIN, THAT'S
%-RANKED AS
HAVING
AN
OLDER
%-POPULATION, AND SO
THIS
OLDER
%-POPULATION
NEEDS
MORE
CARE,
%-FURTHER SQUEEZING
THIS
WHOLE
%-SITUATION.
%- >> CORRECT.%-WHAT
WE'RE
ALSO
SEEING
IN
%-HOSPITALS
AND
HEALTH
SYSTEMS IS
%-A
PAIR
SHIFT.
%-THE
INSURANCE
PATIENTS
HAVE,
%-THEIR
PAYER
IS
CHANGING.%-AS WE
ANAL,
!
AGE,
WE
SHIFT
FROM PRIVATE
%-INSURANCE
TO
MEDICARE
AND
%-SOMETIMES
AS
OUR
RESOURCE
%-SHRINK, EVEN
TO
MEDICAID, AND WE
%-KNOW THAT
MEDICARE AND
MEDICAID
%-RATES
DON'T
COVER THE FULL
COST
%-OF
CARE.
%- >> SO THIS IS
HAPPENING ACROSS
%-THE
STATE.%-OF COURSE
IT'S
ACUTELY FELT%-RIGHT
NOW IN KIND
OF
THE
%-NORTHWEST PART OF
THE
STATE WITH
%-THE
CLOSURE
OF
19
CLINICS
AND
%-TWO
HOSPITALS, ONE
IN
%-EAU CLAIRE, ONE
IN CHIPPEWA
%-FALLS.%-WHAT IS
YOUR
REACTION TO THE
%-CLOSURE
OF
THOSE
FACILITIES?
%- >> WELL, YOU
SAID
IT.
%-UNTHINKABLE.
%-RIGHT?
%-BUT
IT'S
ALSO A
SIGNAL
OF
WHAT'S
%-GOING
ON
IN
HOSPITALS, NOT
JUST
%-IN
WISCONSIN,
BUT ACROSS THE
%-STATE.%-IT'S
A
CASCADE
OF
THINGS.
%-IT'S
WORKFORCE
SHORTAGES,
%-INCREASED LABOR
COSTS,
INCREASED
%-SUPPLY
COSTS,
BUT WHEN
YOU REACH
%-THAT
BREAKING POINT
OR
THE
%-COMBINATION
OF
FACTORS,
IS
WHEN
%-YOUR VOLUMES
START
TO
SHIFT,%-WHEN YOU
HAVE
FEWER
INPATIENTS
%-TO
TAKE CARE
OF,
WHEN
YOU'RE
%-GETTING
LESS
REIMBURSEMENT
%-BECAUSE
YOUR
SERVICES YOU CAN
%-OFFER
ARE
SHRINKING.
%-THAT CAN BE
THE
BREAKING
POINT
%-FOR HOSPITAL
CLOSURE,
BUT
WE'RE
%-ALSO
SEEING
IT
IN
SERVICE
%-CLOSURES ACROSS
THE
STATE.
%- >> SO VERY, VERY
BRIEFLY,
YOU
%-SAY
THAT THERE
ARE SIGNS
OF
%-HOPE.
%- >> YES.
%-ABSOLUTELY.
%-HOSPITALS ARE
HAVING
TO
RELY
%-LESS
ON
TEMPORARY
AGENCY
STAFF,
%-STAFF
THAT
LEFT DURING
THE
%-PANDEMIC
ARE
COMING
BACK.
%-WE'RE SEEING
THAT.
%-THAT'S
GREAT.%-WE'RE ALSO
SEEING FOR THE
FIRST
%-TIME
SINCE BEFORE
THE
PANDEMIC
%-ENROLLMENTS
INCREASE
IN
%-HEALTHCARE PROGRAMS,
AND
THAT'S
%-AWESOME.
%- >> WE'LL BE
LOOKING
TO
NEXT
%-YEAR'S REPORT TO SEE
THE SIGNS
%-OF
IMPROVEMENT.
%-ANN
ZENK,
THANKS VERY
MUCH.%- >> THANK
YOU.%- >> FOUR YEARS
AGO
THIS
WEEK,
THE%-STATE OF
WISCONSIN
DECLARED
A%-STATE OF
EMERGENCY BECAUSE
OF
%-COVID.
%-THE
VIRUS
HAS
TAKEN MORE THAN
%-16,000
LIVES
IN
WISCONSIN, AND
%-WHILE THE
THREAT
HAS
FADED,
THE
%-EFFECTS OF
THE
PANDEMIC
LINGER.%-"HERE AND
NOW"
REPORTER ADITI%-DEBNATH SPOKE TO THE
WISCONSIN%-DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
SERVICES,%-DR. JASMINE ZAPATA TO
TALK
ABOUT
%-LESSONS LEARNED
AND
CURRENT
%-STATUS.
%-HER
COMMENTS INCLUDE
DISCUSSION
%-OF
SUICIDE.
%- >> WHERE DO
WE STAND
TODAY
IN
%-WISCONSIN
WITH
COVID-19
%-INFECTIONS?%- >> I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S
%-BEEN FOUR
YEARS.
%-IT SEEMS LIKE
THAT
TIME
JUST
%-WENT
BY
SO
QUICKLY.%-AS IT
RELATES
TO
WISCONSIN,
%-WE'RE
ACTUALLY SEEING
IN
OUR
%-WASTEWATER
LEVELS,
OUR
EMERGENCY
%-DEPARTMENT
VISITS AND
OUR
%-PERCENT POSITIVITY
THAT
THE
%-RATES
ARE
GETTING
LOWER.
%-SO WE ARE
DEFINITELY IN
A
BETTER
%-PLACE THAN WE
WERE FOUR
YEARS
%-AGO.
%- >> WHAT
SHOULD
OR COULD
HAVE%-PUBLIC HEALTH
PROVIDERS
DONE
%-DIFFERENTLY DURING THE FIRST
FEW
%-MONTHS OF THE
PANDEMIC?
%- >> THAT'S SUCH
A
GREAT QUESTION%-AND WHEN
YOU
LOOK
BACK, OF
%-COURSE, HINDSIGHT IS 20/20
%-VISION.
%-WE
KNOW
THINGS THAT COULD HAVE
%-BEEN
DONE
DIFFERENTLY.
%-FIRST, I WOULD
LIKE TO
SAY
I'M
%-REALLY PROUD OF
THE
FACT THAT WE%-ARE STILL
HERE, THAT
WE
GOT%-THROUGH
THIS.%-THAT WAS
A VERY,
VERY HARD
TIME.
%-WE'RE
STILL
FACING
DIFFERENT%-COMPLICATIONS
AND
RIPPLE
EFFECTS%-FROM THE
PANDEMIC,
SO
WE'RE
NOT
%-COMPLETELY
DONE WITH
THIS.
%-BUT I'M
JUST PROUD OF
THE
FACT%-THAT WE ARE
STANDING, WE
ARE
%-STILL HERE
AND THAT
WE
LEARNED A%-LOT
OF
IMPORTANT
LESSONS.%-ONE OF
THE BIGGEST
LESSONS
THAT
%-I
TRULY
BELIEVE THAT WE
LEARNED,
%-AND
WHEN
PEOPLE
ASK WHAT
COULD%-WE
HAVE
DONE
DIFFERENTLY IF WE
%-COULD GO
BACK, IT'S
REALLY A
%-QUESTION OF IF WE
COULD
HAVE
%-GONE BACK
IN
TIME
EVEN BEFORE
%-THE
PANDEMIC
STARTED,
CONTINUING%-TO
BUILD
THAT
TRUST
BETWEEN
OUR
%-COMMUNITY AND
HEALTHCARE
AND%-PUBLIC
HEALTH.
%-WHEN
WE
AS PUBLIC
HEALTH
%-PROVIDERS
AND AS
A PUBLIC
HEALTH
%-SYSTEM
WENT
INTO
COMMUNITIES
AND
%-TALKED
ABOUT
VACCINES AND THIS
%-IS
A
PANDEMIC AND
EVERYBODY GET
%-VACCINATED, HERE'S
WHAT TO
DO TO
%-BE
SAFE,
THE
FACT
THAT THERE
%-WERE SO MANY
LIVES
LOST BECAUSE
%-OF
A
DISTRUST IN
THE
HEALTHCARE
%-SYSTEM, EVEN BECAUSE OF
LACK
OF
%-ACCESS, BECAUSE OF
MANY
%-DIFFERENT
BARRIERS,
THAT'S
%-HEARTBREAKING.%-THOSE ARE
SOME
THINGS THAT
COULD%-HAVE BEEN
PREVENTED, BUT THAT
%-WAS WORK
THAT
NEEDED TO
BE DONE
%-YEARS
AND
EVEN
DECADES BEFORE
%-THE
PANDEMIC
STARTED.
%-SO I DON'T
THINK
THERE'S
ANY
ONE
%-THING
THAT WE
COULD
HAVE
DONE
%-IMMEDIATELY AT THAT TIME.
%-THE
REAL
WORK
IN
PREVENTION
%-NEEDED
TO
START
EVEN
YEARS%-BEFORE
THE
PANDEMIC
EVEN
%-OCCURRED.
%- >> THE
PANDEMIC
ALSO
CAUSED A%-LOT OF
PROBLEMS AND
PAIN
FOR%-HEALTHCARE
WORKERS ON
THE
%-FRONTLINE.%-SOME SAY
THE
INDUSTRY
WILL
NEVER
%-RETURN BACK
TO
NORMAL.%-AS
A FRONTLINE
WORKER AND
A
%-COMMUNITY
DOCTOR, WHAT ARE SOME
%-OF THOSE
PROBLEMS THAT
ARE
STILL
%-LINGERING IN
THE
HEALTHCARE
%-FIELD?
%- >> THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT
%-ISSUES, BUT ONE OF
THEM
IS
%-BURN-OUT.%-IN THE
MEDICAL
FIELD, WE
HAVE%-ONE OF THE
HIGHEST
RATES
OF
%-SUICIDE, AND THAT
IS
SOMETHING
%-THAT'S
VERY
DISTURBING.
%-I'VE
PERSONALLY HAD
COLLEAGUES
%-THAT I'VE
GONE
OUT
TO DINNER
%-WITH,
THAT
I'VE
TALKED
WITH ON
%-THE
PHONE,
HAD
CLOSE
%-RELATIONSHIPS DIE
FROM
SUICIDE,
%-AND
THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT IS
%-HARD
TO
TALK
ABOUT,
BUT
IF --
%-UNLESS WE
TALK ABOUT
IT
MORE,%-IT'S
NEVER GOING
TO
CHANGE.
%-SO IT WAS
ALREADY
A
BAD
PROBLEM,
%-BUT
ESPECIALLY
DUE TO
THE
%-PANDEMIC AND
JUST
THE
WAY THAT
%-THE
HEALTHCARE SYSTEM
WAS
%-OVERWHELMED, THAT DEFINITELY
HAD
%-A
LONG-TERM IMPACT ON
THE MENTAL
%-HEALTH
OF
EVEN
PROVIDERS.%- >> DR. JASMINE
ZAPATA, THANK YOU%-VERY
MUCH.
%- >> MM-HMM.%-THANK YOU.
%- >> TURNING TO
WISCONSIN AS
A
KEY
%-BATTLEGROUND STATE IN
THE
%-NOVEMBER
ELECTIONS, IT'S
GAME
%-ON.
%-THIS PAST
TUESDAY'S
PRIMARY
%-ELECTIONS ACROSS
THE
COUNTRY
%-CEMENTED DONALD
TRUMP AND JOE
%-BIDEN
AS
THE
MAJOR
PARTY
%-CANDIDATES FOR
PRESIDENT.
%-AGAIN.%-CANDIDATES
FOR
U.S.
SENATE
IN
%-WISCONSIN ARE
ALSO OUT OF
THE
%-CAMPAIGN
CHUTES.
%-WE CHECK
IN
NOW
WITH
OUR
%-POLITICAL
PANELIST,
REPUBLICAN%-BILL
MCCOSHEN
AND SCOT
ROSS.%-THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
%- >> GREAT TO BE
HERE.
%- >> TO START
THINGS
OFF, I
MEAN,%-WE
HAVE
ONE
CANDIDATE DESCRIBED
%-OFFICIALLY
AS
OLD
AND
FORGETFUL
%-AND
ANOTHER
AS
AN
INDICTED
%-THREAT
TO
DEMOCRACY.
%-GIVEN
THAT, WHO
IS IN
A
BETTER
%-POSITION
HERE?
%-BILL?%- >> FIRST OF
ALL, MOST
POLLS
OVER%-THE
LAST
SEVERAL
MONTHS
HAVE
%-SAID THIS
IS
THE
RACE NO
ONE
%-WANTED.
%-TWO-THIRDS OF
VOTERS
SAID
THEY
%-DIDN'T WANT
A
REMATCH
FROM
2020,
%-YET HERE WE
ARE.
%-IT'S GROUNDHOG
DAY
IN
AMERICA.
%-WE HAVE
NOT
SEEN
ANYTHING LIKE
%-THIS,
A
REMATCH
OF
PREVIOUS
%-CONTENDERS
IN
68
YEARS.
%-IKE VERSUS
STEVENSON
WAS THE
%-LAST TIME
WE'VE
SEEN
ANYTHING%-LIKE
THIS.%-THE LAST
TIME
WE
SAW
A
FORMER
%-PRESIDENT RUN
AGAINST
A
CURRENT
%-PRESIDENT
WAS
134
YEARS
AGO,
%-GROVER CLEVELAND
AGAINST
%-BENJAMIN
HARRISON.
%-SO
IT'S
PRETTY
RARE.
%- >> DON'T YOU DARE
MAKE
A
BIDEN
%-JOKE.
%- >> IT'S PRETTY
RARE
IN
AMERICAN
%-POLITICS,
AND, YOU
KNOW,
THIS
%-RACE I
THINK
IS
ALREADY
BAKED.
%-THERE'S NOT A LOT
OF
UNDECIDEDS.
%-EVERYBODY NO, SIR THESE TWO
%-PEOPLE.
%-THEY
EITHER
THINK
BIDEN
IS
OLD
%-OR
TRUMP'S
GOT
ISSUES
AFTER
%-ISSUES.
%-SO, YOU
KNOW, I HOPE
IT'S
NOT
A
%-BATTLE TO THE
BOTTOM,
BUT
I'M
%-HOPING
THAT BOTH OF
THEM
CAN
%-ELEVATE
THE
GAME
AND
INSPIRE
%-AMERICA AND
WIN
THE
JOB,
BUT%-WE'LL
SEE OVER THE
NEXT
EIGHT
%-MONTHS.%-THIS WILL
BE
THE
LONGEST
%-PRESIDENTIAL JEN
ELECTION
WE'VE
%-EVER
HAD.
%- >> AND A
BLOODBATH,
I
IMAGINE.
%- >> SO, SCOTT, WHAT ABOUT
YOU?
%-WHO DO YOU THINK IS IN
A
BETTER
%-POSITION GIVEN THE
DESCRIPTIONS
%-OF
THESE TWO
CANDIDATES?
%- >> I'D SAY
THIS.%-SO YOUR
HOUSE
IS ON
FIRE
AND
%-YOU'VE
GOT
AN
81-YEAR OLD
GUY
%-WHO
COMES
FROM
SCRANTON WITH A
%-BUCKET
OF
WATER FIRE
HOSE AND
A
%-GUY,
77 I DO
RECALL
FROM NEW
%-YORK OR
FLORIDA
WHO
COMES WITH A
%-GALLON OF
GASOLINE.
%-WHICH
ONE ARE
YOU GOING TO
HIRE
%-THE JOB
THAT
NEEDS TO
BE
DONE%-WHICH IS
TO
PUT
THE
FIRE
OUT IN
%-YOUR
HOUSE.%-I THINK THIS IS
BIDEN'S RACE
TO
%-LOSE, BUT
THEY'VE
GOT TO
DO ALL
%-THE
WORK, AND I
CARE
ABOUT
%-WISCONSIN.%-AND CLEARLY, WHAT
HAPPENED IN
%-2016 IS
NEVER GOING TO
HAPPEN
%-HERE
AGAIN.
%-LIKE THEY WILL
INVEST,
THEY'RE%-INVESTING
HEAVY.%-AT THE SAME TIME,
THEY'RE
DOING
%-ALL THAT
INVESTING
HERE,
YOU'VE
%-GOT
THE
STUFF WITH
THE
RNC
WHERE
%-THEY'VE
LOST DOZENS OF
STAFFERS.
%-THEY
JUST
ANNOUNCED
THEY'RE
%-CLOSED OUTREACH
CENTERS
IN
%-MILWAUKEE AND YOU'VE GOT
A
%-CANDIDATE WHO
NOW
HAS
TAKEN OVER
%-THE
RNC AND
YOU
DON'T
KNOW
IF%-THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND
THIS
%-MONEY ON
HOVDE
AND
BENNETT
OR
IF
%-THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND
IT ON
HIS
%-LEGAL
BILLS.
%-THERE'S A LOT
THERE.%-ON THE
ISSUES I THINK
BIDEN
HAS
%-IT TOP
TO
BOTTOM,
STARTING WITH
%-ABORTION, FIRST
AND
FOREMOST.
%- >> I'M SOMEWHAT AMAZED
THAT
I'M
%-SAYING
THAT DONALD
TRUMP IS IN
%-THE
FRONTRUNNER
SPOT RIGHT
NOW,
%-NATIONALLY.%-MOST NATIONAL
POLLS.
%-THERE'S A COUPLE THAT
SHOW
BIDEN%-IN THE
LEAD.%-ALL THE
REST
SHOW
TRUMP IN
THE
%-LEAD AND
IT
HAS
HIM
LEADING IN
%-CRITICAL STATES
LIKE
MICHIGAN.
%-IPSOS HAD
HIM
UP
THREE
POINTS
IN
%-MICHIGAN AND
THE
PRO-PALESTINIAN%-MOVEMENT IS
PART
OF
BIDEN'S
%-PROBLEM
THERE.%-AS IT RELATES
TO
WISCONSIN, I
%-WOULD
GIVE DONALD TRUMP
AND
HIS
%-TEAM
THIS
ADVICE.
%-LESS IS
MORE.%-I
WOULD
GO
GOLFING FOR THE
NEXT
%-EIGHT
MONTHS.%-I WOULD
DO
WHAT BIDEN
DID
IN
%-2020.%-I THINK
THESE
RALLIES THAT HE%-HAS ARE
VERY
DANGEROUS
BECAUSE
%-HE'S
VERY
UNDISCIPLINED ON THE
%-STUMP.%-I THINK IF
HE
SAYS
LESS,
HE
WINS
%-THIS
THING
EASILY.%-IF
HE
ENGAGES ALL
THE
WAY
ALONG%-FOR
THE
NEXT
EIGHT
MONTHS, IT'S%-GOING TO BE A
COIN
TOSS.
%- >> HUH.%-SO WHAT IS
IT
LIKE
FOR
%-ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS TO GO%-ALL IN
FOR DONALD
TRUMP
IN
%-WISCONSIN?%- >> WELL, HE'S
THE
OPTION.
%-RIGHT?%-I MEAN,
GUYS
LIKE
ME
ARE -- I
%-WANTED
SOMEONE WHO COULD
SERVE
%-TWO
TERMS, WHO
WAS MORE
%-CONSERVATIVE.
%-I
LOST.
%-SO FOR
ME,
I'M
HOPEFUL
THAT
%-HE'LL PICK
SOMEONE
AS
HIS
%-RUNNING MATE
THAT
WILL
APPEAL TO
%-THE
SUBURBAN
VOTERS.%-DONALD TRUMP DID
NOT
DO
WELL%-WITH THE SUBURBAN
VOTERS
IN
%-WISCONSIN AND IN
MULTIPLE OTHER
%-SWING STATES
IN
TO
20.
%-HE
HAS
TO
FIX
THAT IN
THIS
%-ELECTIONMENT IF HE
PICKS
A
%-SYCOPHANT WHO IS
JUST
LOYAL TO
%-HIM,
FIERCELY
LOYAL TO
HIM, I%-DON'T
THINK
THAT
CHANGES
THE
%-DYNAMIC
FOR
HIS
ELECTION.%-HE NEEDS
TO
PICK
SOMEBODY
WHO%-LOOKS
LIKE
THE
FUTURE OF
THE
%-REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
%- >> I AGREE
WITH
WHAT
BILL IS
%-SAYING.
%-HE
SHOULD DO
THAT.%-I DON'T THINK
HE
WILL.
%-HE'S GOING TO
PICK
A
SYCOPHANT.
%-AND WHEN
YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT
%-THE SUBURBAN
VOTERS,
TWO
THINGS:
%-ABORTION AND THE
FACT
THAT
HE'S
%-CURRENTLY TRYING
TO
PAY
OFF
A
%-DEFAMATORY SUIT
AGAINST
HIM
BY
A
%-VICTIM OF
HIS
SEXUAL
ASSAULT.
%-IF
WOMEN
WERE
TURNED
OFF
BY
%-ABORTION, THAT'S JUST
THE
NAIL%-IN THE
COFFIN.
%-AGAIN, GOT TO
DO
THE
WORK.
%- >> TOP TWO
ISSUES
ARE
%-IMMIGRATION OR
THE
BORDER AND
%-THE
ECONOMY, AND
TRUMP'S RIGHT
%-SIDE UP
ON
THOSE.
%-HE'S PLUS
10 AT
LEAST
ON BOTH
OF
%-THOSE
ISSUES.
%-SO IF
THE
ELECTION IS
ABOUT
%-THOSE TWO
ISSUES IN THE
FALL,
%-HE'S GOING TO
WIN.%- >> IT'S
INTERESTING, THE
ISSUE%-OF THE
ECONOMY.%-I
MEAN, I
GUESS
IT'S
HOUSING
%-COSTS THAT ARE
MAKING
PEOPLE%-THINK
THAT
IT'S
BAD,
BUT
BY
%-OTHER
METRICS,
IT'S
JUST
NOT.%- >> I'M GOING TO
STIPULATE
THAT A%-LOT OF
THE
ECONOMIC
DATA
IS
GOOD%-FOR THE
PRESIDENT.%-IT
IS
NOT
TRANCE
RATING
INTO
%-SUPPORT AT THE
BALLOT
BOX.
%-VOTERS DON'T FEEL
IT.
%-THEY DON'T
SEE
IT.
%-AND UNLESS
AND UNTIL
THEY
DO,%-IT'S GOING
TO
BENEFIT DONALD
%-TRUMP.%- >> I WANT TO GET TO
THE
U.S.
%-SENATE
RACE,
REPUBLICAN ERIC
%-HOVDE IS ON THE
RACE
OF.
%-HE
WOULDN'T THE LAST
TIME WE
%-SPOKE.
%-ARE
HIS
DEEP
POCKETS
A
THREAT?%- >> I THINK THAT
THE
THREE
BIG
%-CHALLENGES
THAT
ERIC
HOVDE
HAS,
%-FIRST IS
THAT
HE'S
FACING
AN
%-INCREDIBLY
FORMIDABLE CANDIDATE
%-IN TAMMY
BALDWIN,
WHO
HAS
%-BIPARTISAN SUPPORT ACROSS
THE
%-BOARD FOR
WHAT SHE
HAS
DONE FOR
%-THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN, THE
%-DAIRY PRIDE
ACT,
THE
A.C.A.
AND
%-LETTING
26-YEAR-OLDS
BE
ON
%-HEALTHCARE, THE
ISSUE
OF
%-ABORTION AND
BUY
AMERICA.%-THOSE
THINGS,
THINGS THAT WERE
%-MADE
PERMANENT BY
PUT
IN
PLACE
%-WITH
TRUMP'S
SIGNATURE, MADE
%-PERMANENT
BY PRESIDENT
BIDEN.
%-HOVDE, SO
THAT'S
HIS
FIRST
%-CHALLENGE.%-HIS OTHER
TWO
CHALLENGES ARE A%-LITTLE
BIT, YOU
KNOW,
HE'S
VERY
%-CLEARLY RUNNING
HIS
OWN
%-CAMPAIGN, AND
ANY
CANDIDATE WHO%-IS TRYING
TO RUN
THEIR
OWN
%-CAMPAIGN IS A
DISASTER
IN
%-WAITING AND
THE
THIRD
POINT I
%-WOULD
SAY
IS
THAT
HE'S
TRYING --
%-AS
HE'S
TRYING
TO
CREATE
A
CULT
%-OF
PERSONALITY AROUND
HIMSELF,%-AND
THERE'S
ONLY
ONE
CULT
FIGURE%-IN THE
G.O.P.
AND
THAT'S
TRUMP.%- >> WE'RE GOING TO AGREE ON THE
%-FIRST
PART, TAMMY BALDWIN
IS
%-GOING TO BE
A
TOUGH
OUT.
%-YOUR VIEWERS SHOULD BE REMINDED
%-THAT
ONLY
ONE
STATEWIDE
%-INCUMBENT LOST
ANYWHERE IN THE
%-COUNTRY IN 2022
AND THAT WAS
THE
%-GOVERNOR
OF
NEVADA.
%-SO BEATING
A
STATEWIDE
INCUMBENT
%-IS A VERY
HIGH
MOUNTAIN
TO
%-CLIMB.%-HAVING SAID
THAT, I
THINK
ERIC
%-HOVDE'S OFF
TO
A VERY,
VERY
GOOD
%-START.%-I BELIEVE HE'S CLEARED
THE
%-FIELD.%-I DON'T THINK HE'LL HAVE
A
%-PRIMARY WHICH
WILL
ALLOW
HIM TO
%-MANAGE
HIS
RESOURCES
BETTER.
%-TIM
MICHAELS TWO YEARS
AGO
WAS
%-SPENDING
NEARLY
A
MILLION
%-DOLLARS A
WEEK
TO
BEAT
CLAYFISH%-IN
THE
PRIMARY.%-HOVDE
WON'T
HAVE
TO
SPEND
THAT%-KIND
OF
MONEY TO
GET
THROUGH
THE
%-PRIMARY, BUT HE'S
GOT
TO
%-INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO
WISCONSIN.%-THEY'VE
BEEN
NIMBLE ON
HIS
FEET
%-SO
FAR.
%-I
LIKE
THAT
HE'S
ADVERTISING IN
%-DANE COUNTY
BECAUSE
A
REPUBLICAN
%-CANNOT GET
SWAMPED
IN
DANE
AND
%-MILWAUKEE
COUNTIES
AND
WIN
%-STATEWIDE, SO
I
GIVE
HIM
AN
"A"
%-FOR
HIS
FIRST
MONTH ON THE
%-CAMPAIGN
TRAIL.%- >> WE HAVE TO
LEAVE
IT
THERE.
%-THANKS VERY
MUCH.
%-FOR MORE ON
THIS AND
OTHER
%-ISSUES FACING
WISCONSIN,
VISIT
%-OUR
WEBSITE,
PBSWISCONSIN.ORG%-AND CLICK ON
THE
NEWS
TAB.
%-THAT'S
OUR
PROGRAM
FOR
TONIGHT.
%-I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.%-HAVE A
GOOD
WEEKEND.
%- >> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS%-PROVIDED BY THE FOCUS FUND FOR%-JOURNALISM AND FRIENDS OF PBS%-WISCONSI
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