%-SOCIAL SECURITY
NUMBER,
BUT
%-YOU'RE
NOT
HERE
PERMANENTLY.%-YOU CAN'T
LEAVE
THE
U.S..
%-YOU DON'T
HAVE
ACCESS
TO
PUBLIC
%-BENEFITS.%-YOU ARE
HERE
TEMPORARILY AND
%-MAYBE
IT'S
FOR
YEARS
WAITING
TO
%-ACCESS
THE
ASYLUM
SYSTEM, BUT
%-THE
WORK
PERMIT
DOES ALLOW
%-PEOPLE TO
PARTICIPATE
IN
SOCIETY
%-AND
SUPPORT
THEMSELVES.%- >> ALL RIGHT.
%-WE NEED TO
LEAVE
IT
THERE.
%-THIS IS
ULTIMATELY
A
%-PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION WE HAVE
%-TO
GRAPPLE
WITH.
%-ARE WE
WILLING
TO
FUND
PLACES%-THAT WE ARE
GOING TO
BE
SEEING
%-BUDGETS REALLY
STRUGGLING
TO
%-MAKE
ENDS
MEET
GIVEN
THE
%-REDUCTION
IN
STUDENTS AT THE
%-COST OF
POTENTIALLY SOME
OF
%-THOSE STUDENTS
ARE GOING
TO
%-STRUGGLE
WITH OR
BE
UNABLE TO
%-COMPLETE
A
COLLEGE
DEGREE,
IF
%-THAT
LOCATION
IS
CLOSED.
%- >> SO A
RECENT
PAPER FROM
THE
%-FEDERAL
RESEARCH
DISCUSSED
HOW
%-EMPLOYMENT AND
MANUFACTURING AND
%-THE
AGRICULTURE
SECTORS
HAS
%-DECREASED IN
WISCONSIN OVER
THE
%-PAST
10
%-YEARS.
%- >> YEAH.%-IT
IS
AN
ENORMOUS
CHALLENGE.%-IT'S
A
GREAT
QUESTION.%-WE SEE
THIS
THIS A LOT
OF
PLACES%-ACROSS THE CROSS
COUNTRY.
%-AB
ENORMOUS
%
- >> THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS
A%-PBS WISCONSIN
ORIGINAL
%-PRODUCTION.
%->>
YOU'RE
WATCHING "HERE AND
%-NOW"
2024
ELECTION
COVERAGE.
%-EXPERT
RECOMMENDATIONS
FOR
STATE
%-VOTING
MAPS
ARE
IN.%-AND
THE
WISCONSIN SUPREME
COURT%-WILL HAVE
THE
FINAL
WORD
ON
%-WHICH MAPS
BECOME
LAW.
%-I'M FREDERICA
FREYBERG.
%-TONIGHT
ON "HERE AND NOW,"
A
%-CLOSER
LOOK AT
THE
DISTRICT
%-LINES TO BE
VOTED
ON BY
THE%-SUPREME
COURT.
%-THEN, HOW
A
SMALL
COMMUNITY
IS
%-ADAPTING TO
A
SUDDEN
INFLUX
OF
%-MIGRANTS, AND THE
REALITY
OF
%-POLICIES AT
THE
SOUTHERN
BORDER.
%-AND
FINALLY,
ANALYSIS ON THE
%-LONG-TERM
IMPACTS
OF
WANING
%-ACCESS
TO
RURAL
HIGHER
%-EDUCATION.
%-IT'S "HERE AND
NOW"
FOR
FEBRUARY
%-2.
%- >> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS%-PROVIDED BY THE FOCUS FUND FOR%-JOURNALISM AND FRIENDS OF PBS%-WISCONSIN.
%- >> WISCONSIN IS
ON
COURSE TO
%-HAVE
NEW
VOTING
MAPS
IN
SHORT
%-ORDER.
%-LATE THIS
WEEK,
CONSULTANTS
%-HIRED BY THE
STATE SUPREME
COURT
%-REJECTED TWO OF
THE
MAP
%-SUBMISSIONS AS
BEING
PARTISAN
%-GERRYMANDERS AND SAID
THE
REST
%-COULDN'T MEET
MUSTER WITH
THE
%-HIGH
COURT.
%-FOR DETAILS ON
THIS,
WE
TURN
TO%-ZAC
SCHULTZ AT
THE
CAPITOL.
%-SO
WHICH
TWO
MAPS
REPRESENT
%-PARTISAN
GERRYMANDER, ACCORDING
%-TO
THESE
CONSULTANTS?%- >> THE FEST
ONE
SHOULDN'T COME
%-AS ANY
SURPRISE AND THAT IS
THE
%-REPUBLICAN
MAP,
THE
REPUBLICAN
%-LEGISLATORS' MAP, WHICH IS
THE
%-MOST CLOSELY
RELATED TO
THE
%-CURRENT MAPS THAT
ARE
IN
PLACE%-THAT
THE SUPREME
COURT
ALREADY
%-SAID WERE
GERRYMANDERED.%-THE OTHER MAPS
ARE
FROM
WHAT'S
%-CALLED
THE
JOHNSON
INTERVENORS,%-WHICH ARE
MAPS
DRAWN BY
THE
%-WISCONSIN INSTITUTE FOR
LAW
AND
%-LIBERTY,
OR
W.I.L.,
A
%-CONSERVATIVE LAW
FIRM.
%-THEE
HEDGED
THEIR
BEATS
BETWEEN%-SOME OF THE MAPS
DRAWN BY THE
%-MORE
LIBERAL
OR
DEMOCRATIC
%-GROUPS IN THIS
CASE
AND
THEIR
%-LEGISLATORS'
MAPS,
BUT
STILL%-PRETTY MUCH
MADE FOR
A
SLAM
DUNK
%-MAJORITY FOR
THEIR
MAPS
IF
%-ADOPTED.
%- >> IT'S
SOMETHING
CONSULTANTS
%-CALLED STEALTH
GERRYMANDERING, I
%-THINK,
IN
THEIR
REPORT?
%- >> YEAH.%-AND THAT'S
BECAUSE THE
W.I.L.
%-MAPS
MET ALL OF
THE
CRITERIA%-THAT ARE
DETERMINED BY
THE
STATE
%-CONSTITUTION.
%-THEY'RE
CONTIGUOUS,
THEY
KEPT%-MOST OF THE MUNICIPAL
%-COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST
%-TOGETHER,
THE
POPULATION,
ALL
%-THOSE
THINGS
WERE
THERE,
BUT
%-THEY
STILL WERE
DRAWN IN
A
WAY%-THAT
WERE PRETTY
MUCH
GUARANTEED
%-REPUBLICAN MAJORITIES
AND,
IN
%-SOME
CASES,
SUPER
MAJORITIES.%- >> AND
SO
THE
CONSULTANT'S
VIEW%-ON
THIS IS
NOT
SETTING
WELL
WITH
%-REPUBLICAN
LAWMAKERS, SAYING
%-THEIR MAPS
WERE
REJECTED
BECAUSE
%-THEY
DIDN'T
PRODUCE
DEMOCRATIC
%-OUTCOMES THAT THIS
COURT
WANTS.
%- >> WELL, I THINK THEY'RE
%-SPEAKING TO
THEIR
AUDIENCE,
%-THEIR
BASE,
THEIR
DONORS
AND
%-POSSIBLY HOPING TO
SPEAK TO
THE
%-U.S. SUPREME COURT
WHERE
THEY'RE
%-HOPING
THIS
APPEAL WILL BE
HEARD
%-AND THEN ONE
OF
THEIR
TWO
%-PREFERRED MAPS WOULD
ULTIMATELY
%-BE
CHOSEN BY
THE
HIGH
COURT IN
%-THE
LAND.%-BUT
THE
HONEST
REALITY IS THAT
%-EVERY INDEPENDENT
ANALYST, EVERY
%-EXPERT, MOST
PEOPLE
THAT
%-UNDERSTAND THIS ISSUE HAVE
%-LOOKED
AT
THESE
MAPS FOR
THE
%-LAST DECADES
PLUS
IS
THEY
FAVOR
%-REPUBLICANS.%-BY HOW MUCH WAS
ALWAYS
THE
%-QUESTION.
%-WAS THE
TWO-THIRDS
SUPERMAJORITY%-IN THE
SENATE
ENTIRELY
A
%-GERRYMANDER?
%-PROBABLY
NOT, WHAT
THE
EXPERTS
%-SAY IS THAT
BUT
A
SOLID
PORTION
%-OF
THAT
IS BECAUSE OF
THE
%-GERRYMANDER THAT WAS
DRAWN
INTO
%-FAVOR REPUBLICANS
IN
DISTRICTS%-THAT WERE
GUARANTEED TO
ELECT
%-THEM.
%- >> SO AS TO THE OTHER
FOUR
MAPS
%-FROM DEMOCRATS AND
OTHERS,
THE
%-EXPERTS
DEEMED
THEM
NOT
PARTISAN
%-GERRYMANDERS
BUT IS NOT
%-NECESSARILY
PERFECT,
EITHER.%->> Reporter: THAT'S
RIGHT.%-THERE WERE
DIFFERENCES
BETWEEN
%-ALL FOUR
MAPS.
%-THE
EXPERTS, MOST
OF
THEIR
%-25-PAGE REVIEW
WAS
ACTUALLY
%-SCORING IN
THEIR
ANALYSIS
OF ALL
%-THE
DIFFERENT MAPS ACCORDING
TO
%-A NUMBER OF
RHETORIC
RUBRICS,
%-MOSTLY
LOOK
AT
PARTISAN
%-FAIRNESS, WHICH IS KIND OF
THE
%-NEW
STANDARD THAT
THIS
COURT
HAS
%-INTRODUCED FOR THIS
PROCESS TO
%-SAY IN
A
50/50
TOP OF
THE
BALLOT
%-STATE, WHICH IS
WHAT
WISCONSIN
%-IS, WHAT WOULD BE
THE
MOST
FAIR
%-OUTCOME
AND
HOW
WOULD THAT BE
%-REPRESENTED BY
HOW
THE
DISTRICTS
%-LOOKED
AND THEY
SAID
THAT
%-ACCORDING
TO
SOME
ANALYSIS OPTED
%-ONE, LOOKING
AT ALL
THE
OLD
%-ELECTIONS FOR
THE
PAST SEVEN
%-YEARS, THIS MAP
WAS
BETTER,
THAT
%-MAP
WAS A
LITTLE
BETTER OVER
%-HERE, SO
DIFFERENT
SCORES
FOR
%-DIFFERENT AREAS
BUT
OTHERWISE
%-ROUGHLY THE
SAME, NONE OF
THEM
%-STOOD OUT
WELL
AND
ABOVE TO
THE
%-OTHERS, SO THEY SAID
THE SUPREME
%-COURT CAN
PICK
FROM
THEM
IF THEY
%-WANT.
%- >> SO
THE
CONSULTANTS
ALSO
%-REJECTED REPUBLICAN
CLAIMS
THAT
%-MAJORITIES IN THE LEGISLATURE%-ARE DUE
TO
DEMOCRATIC
SUPPORT
%-BEING
CONCENTRATED
IN
CITIES
%-WHILE
THE
G.O.P.
HAS
THIS
%-BROADER
SUPPORT
OUT-STATE.
%-THE
CONSULTANT
SATAN
!!
SAID
GEOGRAPHY IS%-NOT
DESTINY.
%-UNPACK THIS FOR
US.%- >> THIS IS
SOMETHING WE'VE
HEARD%-OVER AND OVER,
AND
WE'VE
%-REPORTED ON FOR
YEARS.%-THERE IS
A
GEOGRAPHIC
BIAS
FOR
%-REPUBLICANS IN
WISCONSIN.
%-THE
QUESTION
IS, HOW
MUCH.
%-IN
A
NEUTRAL,
FAIR
MAP, WE'VE
%-HAD
EXPERTS FROM
THE
UW
SAY
THAT
%-REPUBLICANS WOULD
WIN
SOMEWHERE%-BETWEEN 50
AND
55
SEATS IN AN
%-AVERAGE YEAR
IF
THE
MAPS
WERE
%-ALL
DRAWN
FAIRLY,
AND IN THIS
%-CASE,
THE
EXPERT
SAID
THAT THAT
%-WAS SOMETHING
THAT
THEY SHOULD
%-BE
LOOKING
AT
BUT YOU
CAN
MAKE
%-FAIR
MAPS
WITHOUT
HAVING
%-EVERYTHING
TILTED ONE
WAY,
SO
IT
%-SHOULDN'T GIVE
THE
REPUBLICANS
%-66
SEATS IN
THE
!!
IN
THE
ASSEMBLY,
BUT
%-MAYBE
50, WHICH
IS JOE
BIDEN AS
%-IT
HAPPENS IN
THIS
BODY.
%- >> SO WHAT HAPPENS
NOW?%- >> THERE IS ONE
WEEK FOR
THE
%-PLAINTIFFS TO
FILE
THEIR
%-RESPONSES TO THE
EXPERTS.
%-THAT'S
DUE
NEXT
THURSDAY.
%-AFTER
THAT,
THE
COURT
COULD
ASK
%-THE
EXPERTS
TO
DRAW
OR
ADJUST.
%-THE EXPERTS
DID
NOT
SUBMIT
THEIR
%-OWN VERSION
SAYING THAT
THE
FOUR
%-MAPS THAT
THEY
PROPOSED THAT%-WERE
IN
THERE WERE
GOOD
ENOUGH
%-BUT THEY
CAN MAKE
ADJUSTMENTS
IF
%-THE COURT
WANTS.
%-THE
COURT
COULD
NARROW
IT
DOWN,%-IT COULD
MAKE
A
DECISION.
%-WE DON'T
KNOW WHAT
HAPPENS
AFTER
%-THAT.
%- >> THE
CONSULTANTS SAID THEY
%-COULD
TAKE
A
CRACK
AT
MAKING
%-THESE
MAPS
IN
SHORT
ORDER.%- >> THAT'S
RIGHT.%- >> ALL RIGHT.%-ZAC
SCHULTZ,
THANKS VERY
MUCH.
%- >> THANKS, FRED.
%- >> IN OTHER
NEWS,
WHITEWATER
%-MADE
NATIONAL
HEADLINES
LAST
%-MONTH AFTER A
BREITBART
NEWS
%-STORY CLAIMED
A
THOUSAND
%-MIGRANTS
HAD
BEEN
DROPPED ON
THE
%-CITY.%-BUT OFFICIALS SAY THE
TRUTH OF
%-THE MATTER
IS
MUCH
MORE
%-COMPLICATED.%-"HERE AND NOW"
REPORTER, NATHAN
%-DENZIN,
HAS
MORE.
%- >> OUR
CASE HERE
IN
WHITEWATER
%-IS VERY
UNIQUE.
%- >> I STARTED
NOTICING
THE
WAY
%-THE
MIGRANTS
PROBABLY -- IT
WAS%-DURING THE
PANDEMIC.
%- >> WHITE
IMMIGRANTS
IMMIGRATE
TO
%-PLACES
IS
BECAUSE AS
HUMANS, WE
%-ARE
LOOKING FOR
A
BETTER
LIFE.%->>
Reporter:
WHITEWATER HAS
%-SEEN A
WAVE
OF
MIGRATION FROM
%-THE SOUTHERN
BORDER
WITH
MEXICO%-OVER THE
PAST TWO
YEARS,
BUT
%-THIS
CASE IS
NOT
LIKE
RECENT
%-HEADLINES WHERE IMMIGRANTS
ARE
%-BEING
CHARTERED TO
NORTHERN
%-COMMUNITIES
LIKE
CHICAGO.%- >> I'VE HAD A LOT
OF
PEOPLE
ASK,
%-OKAY, WHERE ARE THE
BUSES
%-DROPPING PEOPLE
OFF.
%-THAT'S NOT
HAPPENING
HERE.%- >> IT WAS LIKE
50
AT FIRST AND
%-THEN IT
WAS
LIKE
ANOTHER
50 AND
%-SO IT
WASN'T
LIKE
A
MASSIVE
%-RUSH.%- >> BUT
NOW
CITY
OFFICIALS
%-SUSPECT
THAT THERE
ARE
ABOUT
800
%-TO A
THOUSAND
MIGRANTS
FROM
%-NICARAGUA AND
VENEZUELA
IN
%-WHITEWATER.%-AND
WHITEWATER IS
NOT
A
LARGE
%-CITY.
%-THE
2020
CENSUS
INDICATED
THAT
%-ABOUT
15,000
PEOPLE
LIVE
THERE.
%-NEARLY 8
TO
10,000
OF
THOSE
ARE
%-STUDENTS AT THE
UNIVERSITY.
%- >> THE
EARLIEST
WE
REALLY
%-NOTICED IT
WAS, I
WOULD
SAY,
%-EARLY
2022.%->> Reporter: DAN
MEYER IS
THE
%-CHIEF OF
POLICE FOR THE
CITY
OF
%-WHITEWATER.
%- >> WE
HAD A
FAMILY THAT WAS
%-FOUND IN
A
10X10
SHED DURING
THE
%-WINTERTIME, SO
JANUARY
OF
2022,
%-SO
VERY
COLD
TEMPERATURES.%->> Reporter: HE SAYS
THAT
%-BEFORE THEY
GOT TO
WISCONSIN,%-MANY OF THE MIGRANTS
LIKELY HAD
%-CONTACT
WITH
BORDER
PATROL.%- >> THE WAY
THE
BORDER
POLICIES
%-WORK
CURRENTLY IS
THAT
WHEN
%-SOMEONE
CROSSES,
CUSTOMS
%-IDENTIFIES
THEM
AND
ASKS THEM
IF%-THERE
IS
A
SPONSOR
FAMILY
THAT
%-CAN
TAKE THEM
IN.
%-SO IF SOMEBODY
IS
ABLE
TO%-IDENTIFY THAT SPONSOR FAMILY
AND%-THEY
CAN
CONFIRM
THAT,
THEY'RE
%-ESSENTIALLY
PROVIDED
%-TRANSPORTATION
TO
THAT
SPONSOR
%-FAMILY.%->>
Reporter:
WHEN
THEY ENTER
%-THE
U.S.,
THEY'RE
TECHNICALLY IN
%-DEPORTATION
PROCEEDINGS,
BUT%-WITH
A
SPONSOR
FAMILY,
THEY'RE
%-RELEASED UNTIL
THEIR
FIRST COURT
%-DATE.%-THAT COURT
DATE
IS USUALLY
%-SEVERAL
YEARS IN
THE FUTURE
DUE
%-TO
A
HUGE
BACKLOG
OF
CASES.
%-THEY
CAN
THEN
SPONSOR
OTHER
%-FAMILIES THAT
THEY
KNOW.
%-THE
RESULT IS
A
PYRAMID
EFFECT
%-WHERE MANY
FAMILIES FROM
A
SMALL
%-AREA IN
CENTRAL
AND SOUTH%-AMERICA HAVE
COME
TO
WHITEWATER.
%- >> BECAUSE THEY'RE
TRYING TO
GET%-OUT
OF
REALLY
UNSAFE
SITUATIONS
%-AND THERE'S
WORK TO
BE
HAD.
%-THERE'S
SPICE
FACTORIES, SOD
%-FARMS,
CHICKEN
FARMS.%->>
Reporter:
BRIENNE IS A
%-MEMBER OF THE
WHITEWATER
%-COUNCIL.
%-NICARAGUA AND VENEZUELA
ARE
IN
%-VIOLENT
UPHEAVAL,
DRIVING
THOSE
%-PEOPLE
INTO
AMERICA.
%- >> WHAT THEY
WERE
MOST
CONCERNED%-ABOUT IS IF
THEY
WALK
DOWN
THE
%-STREET,
THEY
HAD TO HAVE
A
STACK
%-OF CASH
IN
THEIR
POCKETS
BECAUSE%-THEY WERE
ALWAYS
HAVING
TO
PAY
%-SOMEBODY OFF
TO
STAY
SAFE.%->> Reporter: THEIR
LEGAL
LIMBO
%-MAKES LIFE
EXTREMELY
DIFFICULT.
%- >> AND MOST OF
THEM
ARE
REALLY
%-CONCERNED ABOUT
THE
FACT
THAT
%-THEY'RE NOT
ALLOWED TO
WORK.%->>
Reporter: BROWN
HAS
TALKED
%-TO MANY
MIGRANTS WHO
ARE
NOT
%-ALLOWED TO
WORK FOR
THE
FIRST
%-HUNDRED DAYS
THAT THEY
ARE
IN
%-AMERICA.%- >> THERE ARE A LOT OF
PEOPLE WHO
%-ARE FOLLOWING
THE
RULES AND
ONLY
%-ONE
PERSON
IS
WORKING AND%-EVERYBODY ELSE IS
NOT.%- >> WE
ARE
GOING TO WORK
TO
MAKE
%-MONEY
AND
TO
HELP
OUR
FAMILIES.
%- >> JORGE
IS
AN
IMMIGRANT
%-ADVOCATE AND
A
FIRST
GENERATION
%-IMMIGRANT
FROM
MEXICO.
%-HE HAS
LIVED
IN
WHITEWATER
FOR
%-NEARLY
30
YEARS.
%->>
I LIKE
TO
PROMOTE
EDUCATION.
%-I LIKE
TO
HELP
OTHERS
HELP
SPEAK
%-ENGLISH.%->>
Reporter:
HE
SAYS
MIGRANTS
%-FACE NUMEROUS
CHALLENGES WHEN
%-THEY GET
TO
WISCONSIN:
GETTING A
%-JOB,
SPEAKING THE
LANGUAGE, AND
%-GETTING TRANSPORTATION IS
ALL
%-TOP
OF
MIND.
%- >> I KNOW
HOW IT
FEELS TO
BE IN
%-THIS COUNTRY
AND
NOT
KNOWING
THE
%-LANGUAGE.
%-IT
IS
HARD.
%-EVERY SINGLE
HUMAN
HAS
A
RIGHT
%-TO
SUCCEED,
WHATEVER YOU
ARE,%-YOU HAVE
THAT
RIGHT.%->> Reporter: BUT
FINDING
A
JOB
%-IN
RURAL
WISCONSIN
REQUIRES
A
%-CAR,
AND
IN
WISCONSIN,
%-UNDOCUMENTED
MIGRANTS
ARE
NOT
%-ALLOWED
TO
EARN A DRIVER'S
%-LICENSE.%- >> WE DON'T
HAVE
PUBLIC
%-TRANSPORTATION.%-THE
ONLY
TRANSPORTATION THAT WE%-HAVE
IS
THE
TAXI,
THE
TAXI
ONLY
%-IS
AVAILABLE HERE IN
WHITEWATER
%-FROM
7:30 IN
THE
MORNING
UNTIL
%-5:00.%- >> I SEE
IT AS
A
HUGE
SAFETY
%-ISSUE.%-I
MEAN,
WE'RE -- IF
WE'RE
HAVING
%-PEOPLE ESPECIALLY DRIVING IN
%-SNOW FOR
THE FIRST
TIME, THAT IS
%-NOT A GOOD
SITUATION.
%- >> IT'S SAFER
FOR
PEOPLE TO
HAVE%-DRIVER'S LICENSES.%-THEY HAVE
TO
TAKE
DRIVERS
%-CLASSES, THEY HAVE TO TAKE
A
%-TEST
TO MAKE
SURE THEY
CAN
%-DRIVE, THEY
HAVE TO HAVE
%-INSURANCE.%->> I
DROVE
A
TAXI
FOR A LOT OF
%-YEARS,
BUT TO BE HONEST WITH
%-YOU, I
DIDN'T
LEARN
TO
DRIVE%-UNTIL I
CAME TO
THE UNITED
%-STATES.
%-I
LEARNED WHAT
THE
YELLOW
LINE
%-MEANS, I
LEARNED WHAT THE
WHITE
%-LINE
MEANS, I
KNOW WHAT
THE
%-BROKEN
LINE
MEANS.
%-I
LEARNED
HOW I CAN
PASS
A
CAR.%-I
DID
NOT KNOW
THAT
IN
MY
%-COUNTRY.%- >> IF SOMEBODY IS
ABLE TO
COME
%-HERE
AND
TAKE ALL OF THE
%-TESTING,
THE
WRITTEN
TEST,
%-PHYSICALLY DO
THE
DRIVING
TEST
%-SO
THAT THEY
ARE
SAFER AS A
%-DRIVER, I'M
ALL
FOR
THAT.
%- >> NEARLY
20
STATES
ALREADY
%-ALLOW UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS TO
%-ON
TIN
A DRIVER'S
LICENSE,
%-INCLUDING
ILLINOIS.%- >> I THINK THAT
IT'S
SOMETHING
%-THAT THEY
REALLY NEED TO
LOOK
%-HARDER AT
IN
OUR
LEGISLATURE, IS
%-JUST GIVING
THOSE
RIGHTS
BACK SO
%-THAT EVERYBODY IS
SAFER.
%- >> ALONG WITH DRIVER'S
LICENSES,%-CITY OFFICIALS
SAY
MORE
NEEDS TO%-BE DONE
TO
HELP
WHITEWATER'S
%-NEWEST
IMMIGRANT
POPULATION.%- >> I THINK WE
HAVE
TO
LEARN
HOW
%-TO
HELP EACH
OTHER.%-I THINK WE
HAVE
TO
LEARN
THAT WE
%-ARE
HUMANS, WE
ARE
IMMIGRANTS,
%-AND WE HAVE
FEELINGS.
%- >> FOR "HERE AND
NOW,"
I'M%-NATHAN DENZIN
IN
WHITEWATER.
%- >> NEXT WEEK,
A
LOOK
AT WHAT THE
%-COMMUNITY IS DOING
TO
HELP
THEIR
%-NEW
NEIGHBORS
AND
WHY CITY
%-OFFICIALS ARE ASKING
THE
STATE
%-AND FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT
FOR
HELP.
%-THE MIGRANTS
ARRIVING
IN
%-WHITEWATER REPRESENT
A
TINY
%-FRACTION OF
PEOPLE
CROSSING THE
%-SOUTHERN
BORDER INTO
THE
U.S..
%-IN DECEMBER
ALONE,
SOME
300,000
%-PEOPLE
FROM
CENTRAL
AMERICA
AND
%-ELSEWHERE
REPORTEDLY
DID
SO.
%-2-1/2
MILLION
PEOPLE
IN
2023.
%-THE
CRUSH
OF
PEOPLE
CROSSING
THE
%-BORDER
IS
DESCRIBED AS
A
%-HUMANITARIAN
CRISIS.
%-MEANWHILE,
THREE
MILLION
PENDING
%-ASYLUM
CASE
BEFORE
U.S.
%-IMMIGRATION
COURTS
MEANS
%-MIGRANTS GAINING
ENTRY AT
THE
%-BORDER WAIT YEARS
FOR
THEIR
%-HEARINGS, ALL THE
WHILE
LIVING
%-AND, AFTER A
TIME,
LEGALLY
%-WORKING IN
THE
U.S..%-ERIN BARBATO
IS
THE
DIRECTOR OF
%-THE
IMMIGRANT
JUSTICE
CLINIC AT
%-THE UNIVERSITY
OF WISCONSIN LAW
%-SCHOOL.%-SHE RECENTLY
VISITED
THE
BORDER
%-AND SHE
JOINS US
NOW.
%-THANKS A LOT FOR
BEING
HERE.%->> Interview: THANK YOU FOR%-HAVING ME.%- >> SO I
UNDERSTAND THAT YOU
WERE
%-IN
TIJUANA.%->> Interview: YES, IN
THE END%-OF
DECEMBER TO
TAKE A
CLOSE
LOOK
%-AT WHAT
IS
ACTUALLY
HAPPENING ON
%-THE
BORDER AND THE
POLICIES THAT%-ARE
IN
PLACE
THERE RIGHT NOW
%-THROUGH
THE
DEPARTMENT OF%-HOMELAND
SECURITY
AND
LOOKING
AT
%-HOW
PEOPLE CAN
ACCESS
OUR
ASYLUM
%-SYSTEM AND THE NEW
POLICIES THAT
%-ARE
IN
PLACE.%- >> WHAT DID YOU
SEE AT
THE
%-BORDER?
%- >> SO WE
VISIT
A NUMBER
OF
%-SHELTERS THAT
WERE
HOUSING
%-PEOPLE WHO
ARE
IN
TRANSIT
%-ATTEMPTING
TO
SEEK
REFUGE IN
THE
%-U.S..
%-AND IN
ORDER TO DO SO RIGHT NOW,
%-THEY NEED TO
APPLY
FOR
AN
%-APPOINTMENT WITH
AN
APP.
%-AND MANY OF THE PEOPLE
WE
MET
%-WITH HAVE BEEN
WAITING
FOR
%-MONTHS IN
ORDER
TO
ACCESS
THAT
%-APPOINTMENT, BUT OUR
GOVERNMENT
%-IS
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO
GO
%-THROUGH
A
REGULAR
ROUTE
TO
ENTER
%-THE U.S.
TO
SEEK
PROTECTION, BUT%-IT IS
CAUSING A LOT OF
PEOPLE
TO
%-WAIT VERY
LONG
IN
MEXICO
BEFORE%-THEY CAN
EVEN
ACCESS
OUR
ASYLUM
%-SYSTEM.%- >> WHY
ARE SO
MANY MILLIONS
OF
%-PEOPLE WANTING TO
GAIN
ENTRY%-INTO THE
U.S.?%- >> I MEAN,
THAT'S A
GOOD
%-QUESTION.%-I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT
IT,
WE
%-LIVE IN
A
GREAT
COUNTRY
AND
%-PEOPLE
ARE
SUFFERING
ALL OVER
%-THE
WORLD AND
SO IF WE WERE
%-LIVING IN A
COUNTRY
WHERE NO
ONE
%-WANTED TO
COME, THAT WOULD
%-PROBABLY BE
AN
ISSUE,
BUT
WE'RE
%-LIVING IN A
COUNTRY
WHERE WE DO
%-HAVE
OPPORTUNITY FOR
PEOPLE.
%-AND
PEOPLES' LICE
ARE
IN
!
LIVES
ARE
IN
DANGER
%-IN OTHER
COUNTRIES.
%- >> WHAT
POLICIES HAVE
CHANGED
%-ALLOWING THIS
MORE
RECENT
CRUSH?%- >> I'M NOT SURE IF
THE
POLICIES
%-HAVE
CHANGED.
%-IT'S
DIFFICULT IN
THE
PAST
FEW
%-YEARS
COMPARE
NUMBER
CONSIDERING%-THAT THE
BORDER
WAS
CLOSED
UNDER
%-TITLE 42
FOR
SO
LONG AND
NOW%-THAT THE BORDER
IS --
IT'S
NOT
%-OPEN,
BUT IT'S
FUNCTIONING
UNDER
%-WHAT'S
CALLED TITLE
8, WHICH
IS
%-A
LAW THAT
GOMPS
!!
GOVERNS
OUR
ASYLUM
%-PROCESS ALLOWING
PEOPLE
TO
SEEK
%-ASYLUM WHICH
THEY
CAN'T
DO
%-UNLESS THEY
HAVE
A
CV
APP
1
%-APPOINTMENT.%-ONE OTHER
CHANGE
THAT
%-POTENTIALLY
HAS
SOME
VALIDITY
IN
%-HELPING
PEOPLE
ACCESS
THE
ASYLUM
%-SYSTEM IN A
MORE REGULAR
MANNER
%-IS
THE
OPENING
OF
THESE
MOBILE
%-OFFICES
IN
COLOMBIA,
GUATEMALA
%-AND COSTA
RICA,
AND
WILL
ALLOW
%-PEOPLE WITH
STRONG
CASES TO
%-APPLY
FOR
REFUGEE EFSTATHIOS
%-THERE AND THEN
FLY TO
THE
U.S.%-AND
SO IT
COULD
TAKE
SOME
%-PRESSURE OFF
THE
BORDER AS WELL%-AS OUR
ASYLUM
SYSTEM.
%- >> MEANWHILE, THERE'S SO
MUCH
%-DISCUSSION AROUND
!!
AROUND
THE AND
THE
%-NUMBERS OF
PEOPLE
CROSSING INTO
%-THE UNITED
STATES.%-WHAT
HAPPENS
THROUGH
SOME
%-EXECUTIVE
OR
LEGISLATIVE
ACTION
%-THE BORDERS
CLOSE?%-IS
THAT
EVEN
POSSIBLE?
%- >> IT
SEEMS THAT IT
IS
POSSIBLY,
%-POTENTIALLY WHETHER
OUR
%-PRESIDENT
HAS
THE
ABILITY UNDER
%-THE LAWS TO
CLOSE
THE
BORDER I
%-THINK IS A
QUESTION
THAT WILL
BE
%-LITIGATED IN
COURT.
%-OUR LAWS SAY
THAT
PEOPLE HAVE
%-THE
RIGHT
TO
SEEK
ASYLUM IN
THE
%-U.S. AS WELL AS THE
BORDER
IF%-THEY HAVE
AN EMPLOYMENT
VISA OR
%-EVEN A
VISITOR
VISA
TO
VISIT A
%-FAMILY.%-SO IT
COULD
HAVE
REALLY
HARSH
%-CONSEQUENCES
ON
SEPARATING
%-FAMILIES AND ALSO PUTTING
MORE
%-PEOPLE IN
DANGER,
BUT
THAT
MAY
%-HAPPEN.
%- >> SHORT OF
CLOSING
THE
BORDER,%-DOES
IT
SEEM
LIKELY
THAT
HIGHLY
%-RESTRICTIVE LAWS WILL BE
PUT
IN
%-PLACE AT THIS
TIME?
%- >> I
KNOW
THAT THEY'VE
BEEN
%-DISCUSSED.%-I'M NOT SURE
THAT
THEY'VE
EVER
%-WORKED
BEFORE.
%-MORE
DETERRENTS, MORE
%-ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T SEEM
TO
%-DETER PEOPLE TO
NECESSARILY
COME%-FROM
THE
U.S. AND I THINK
THERE%-MIGHT
BE
A
BETTER
WAY
TO
LOOK AT
%-A
MORE
HUMANITARIAN
SOLUTION.
%- >> WHY DO
PEOPLE
WAIT
SO
LONG TO
%-HAVE
THEIR CASES HEARD?
%- >> THE
BACKLOG
WITHIN
OUR
%-ADMINISTRATIVE
LAW
SYSTEM IN
THE
%-IMMIGRATION
COURTS
IS --
IT'S
%-VERY
LONG.%-AND SO
PEOPLE,
EVEN WITH THE
%-STRONGEST
ASYLUM
CASES,
ARE
%-WAITING YEARS IN ORDER
TO
ACCESS
%-THE
BENEFITS
THAT THEY
ARE
%-ENTITLED TO
UNDER OUR
LAWS, AND
%-SO
IT
MAKES
THE
SYSTEM VERY
%-DIFFICULT TO
MANAGE.%-PEOPLE
MAY MISS
THEIR
COURT
%-HEARINGS BECAUSE THE
COURT
%-HEARINGS GET
CHANGED ALL OF THE
%-TIME AND
PEOPLE
DON'T
HAVE
AN
%-ATTORNEY WHEN
THEY'RE IN
THE
%-PROCESS
UNLESS THEY
CAN
AFFORD
%-ONE OR
FIND
A
PRO BONO
ONE.%-IT'S
A
VERY
DIFFICULT
SYSTEM
TO
%-NAVIGATE AND
IT'S
NOT
GOING
%-QUIBBLE
FOR
PEOPLE WHO
ARE
%-ELIGIBLE
QUICKLY
FOR
PEOPLE WHO
%-ARE
ELIGIBLE.
%- >> ONCE THEY
GET
TO
THAT
%-HEARING, HOW
LIKELY IS IT
THAT
%-PEOPLE SEEKING
ASYLUM WILL
BE
%-GRANTED
IT?
%- >> YOU
KNOW,
THE
PERCENTAGES
%-DIFFER WHERE
YOU'RE IN
THE
U.S..
%-THE
NUMBERS -- THE
JUDGES'
%-PERCENTAGES OF
APPROVAL
ARE
%-AVAILABLE ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
%-SO IT'S
HARD TO SAY
EXACTLY,
BUT
%-IT'S
DIFFICULT.
%-IT'S
NOT --
THE
PERCENTAGE IS
%-NOT
HIGH FOR
THE
PEOPLE
THAT
%-RECEIVE
ASYLUM.
%-IF YOU'RE
REPRESENTED BY
AN
%-ATTORNEY,
YOU'RE
MORE
LIKELY TO
%-GET
ASYLUM BECAUSE THEY
KNOW%-WHAT THE
LAW
IS, WHAT THE JUDGE
%-IS LOOKING
FOR BASED
ON
YOUR
%-STORY, BUT IT'S
A
VERY
%-COMPLICATED, DIFFICULT PROCESS
%-AND
PEOPLE DO NOT
JUST --
AREN'T
%-JUST
GIVEN
PAPERS.
%-IT
TAKES
YEARS.
%-IT TAKES
MONTHS
TO
PREPARE.
%-IT'S A
VERY
DIFFICULT
PROCESS.
%- >> MEANWHILE, PEOPLE WHO
ARE
%-AWAITING
THAT
HEARING, THEY
CAN
%-GET
AUTHORIZATION TO
WORK
%-LEGALLY?
%- >> YES.
%-NORMALLY, DEPENDING ON
WHAT
%-PROCESS THEY'RE GOING
THROUGH,
%-BUT YOU HAVE TO
WAIT
A NUMBER
OF
%-MONTHS, NORMALLY
SIX
MONTHS
TO
A
%-YEAR,
TO
OBTAIN
A
WORK
PERMIT TO
%-WORK IN THE
U.S..
%-ONCE YOU'RE
HERE,
YOU'RE
HERE
%-WITH
AUTHORIZATION.%-YOU CAN
WORK, YOU CAN
GET
A%-DRIVER'S
LICENSE, YOU CAN
GET
A%-SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER,
BUT
%-YOU'RE NOT HERE
PERMANENTLY.%-YOU CAN'T LEAVE
THE
U.S..
%-YOU
DON'T
HAVE
ACCESS
TO
PUBLIC
%-BENEFITS.%-YOU
ARE
HERE
TEMPORARILY AND
%-MAYBE
IT'S
FOR
YEARS
WAITING
TO
%-ACCESS THE
ASYLUM
SYSTEM, BUT
%-THE
WORK
PERMIT
DOES
ALLOW
%-PEOPLE TO
PARTICIPATE
IN
SOCIETY
%-AND SUPPORT
THEMSELVES.%- >> ALL RIGHT.
%-WE NEED TO
LEAVE
IT
THERE.%-ERIN
BARBATO,
THANKS VERY
MUCH.
%- >> THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
%- >> IN EDUCATION
NEWS,
THE NUMBER
%-OF
UW
CAMPUSES GOING
TO
ON-LINE
%-CLASSES INSTEAD OF
IN-PERSON
%-INSTRUCTION HAS
RISEN TO
THREE.
%-AT
WEST
BEND,
FOND du LAC AND
%-MARINETTE.%-UW
RICHLAND
HAS
CLOSED
%-ALTOGETHER.%-THE
MARINETTE
CAMPUS IS
PART
OF
%-UW GREEN
BAY
AND
ITS
CHANCELLOR,
%-MICHAEL ALEXANDER,
SAYS
THE
%-WRITING WAS ON
THE
WALL,
WHAT
%-WITH
DECLINING
ENROLLMENT AND
%-COMPETITION FOR
STUDENTS FROM
%-THE
NEARBY
NORTHEAST WISCONSIN
%-TECHNICAL
COLLEGE.
%- >> THERE HAS TO
BE
ACCESS
POINTS
%-TO
EDUCATION.
%-UW GREEN BAY
HAS TO
HAVE A
%-PRESENCE IN
WISCONSIN.
%-AND
WE'RE
INVESTING IN THE HIGH
%-SCHOOLS
THERE, TO
BE
CLEAR.
%-SO
WITH
OUR
RISING
PHOENIX
%-PROGRAM AND
EVERYTHING THAT WE
%-DO, OUR
STUDENTS
PARTICULARLY%-WHO ARE
INTERESTED
IN
COLLEGE TO
%-GET THEM
A
HEAD
START ON
THE
%-COLLEGE
EXPERIENCE, TO BE
ABLE
%-TO
OFFER
CLASSES WITH
THE HIGH
%-SCHOOLS
MIGHT
NOT
OTHERWISE
BE
%-ABLE
TO
OFFER WITH A
SMALLER
%-POPULATION IN THE HIGH
SCHOOL.
%-RIGHT?
%-THESE
ARE
THINGS THAT WE
%-ABSOLUTELY
ARE
TRYING TO
DO
TO
%-HELP
THAT
REGION.
%-BECAUSE IT
DOES
MATTER.
%-RIGHT?%-WE CAN'T
LOOK AT
THE
PROBLEM
AND
%-JUST
THROW OUR
HANDS
UP.%-WE HAVE TO
FIND
A
WAY
TO
%-ACTUALLY
MAKE
IT BETTER
AND
%-THAT'S
WHAT
WE'RE
TRYING TO
DO
%-HERE.
%-AND,
AGAIN, I
GO
BACK TO
THE
%-NWTC
ISSUE.
%-RIGHT?
%-WE
THINK A
LITTLE
DIFFERENTLY%-ABOUT THIS SOMETIMES, BUT I
WANT%-TO BE
CLEAR,
IF MOST
OF
THOSE
%-CLASSES, IF NOT ALL
OF
THOSE
%-CLASSES,
THOSE
14
CLASSES,
%-THERE'S A
CLASS
THAT'S PRETTY%-MUCH
BEING
IDENTICALLY
TAUGHT
BY
%-NWTC.%-WHY ARE
WE
DUPLICATING OUR
%-EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES THIS
AN
%-AREA THAT IS
HARDER
TO
SERVE%-BECAUSE OF
HOW
SPREAD
OUT IT
IS%-WITH THE NUMBER
OF
PEOPLE THAT
%-ARE
THERE AND
THE
POPULATION?
%-YOU'VE GOT
TO
THINK
DIFFERENTLY
%-ABOUT
HOW
WE
ACCESS -- GIVE
%-ACCESS
TO
THOSE
PEOPLE WHO
WANT
%-IT.
%- >> SO WHAT
DOES
THE
CLOSURE
OF
%-TWO-YEAR CAMPUSES
TO
IN-PERSON
%-CLASSES ACROSS
WISCONSIN
MEAN
%-FOR
ACCESS AND
DEGREE
ATTAINMENT
%-FOR
STUDENTS?%-WE
CHECK
IN WITH
THE
NATIONAL
%-NON-PARTISAN, NONPROFIT
GROUP,
%-NDRC,
AND
ITS
RESEARCH
ASSOCIATE%-IN THE
AREA
OF
RURAL
HIGHER
%-EDUCATION, ALYSSA
RATLEDGE.%-THANKS VERY MUCH
FOR
BEING
HERE.%- >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME.
%- >> SO YOU
HAVE
WRITTEN
THAT
%-RURAL
COLLEGES
MATTER.
%-HOW
SO?
%- >> RURAL
COLLEGES
ARE
OFTEN
THE
%-ONLY ACCESS
POINT
TO
HIGHER
%-EDUCATION
POSTSECONDARY
TRAINING
%-AND
WORKFORCE
TRAINING FOR
%-PEOPLE WHO LIVE
IN
RURAL
AREAS.
%-MANY PEOPLE
LIVING
IN
RURAL
%-AREAS
ARE
SIMPLY
UNABLE
TO
MOVE
%-AWAY TO
GO
TO
COLLEGE
AND
THEY%-DO NOT
ALWAYS
HAVE
ON-LINE
%-ACCESS TO BE
ABLE
TO
TAKE
UP
%-ON-LINE OFFERINGS.
%-SO
THE
ABILITY TO GO
TO
A
%-COLLEGE
AND,
AGAIN,
THESE MIGHT%-BE
DISTANT,
WE MIGHT
BE
%-TRAVELING
25,
50,
EVEN A
HUNDRED
%-MILES TO
COLLEGE,
BUT
IT
STILL
%-MEANS
FOLKS
CAN
STAY
WHERE THEY
%-ARE
METROPOLITAN
WHERE THEIR
%-FAMILIES
ARE
LOCATED.
%-WE'RE
NEAR
CLOSING
CAMPUSES, IT%-CAN
BE
REALLY
CHALLENGING
FOR
%-THOSE FOLKS
TO CONTINUE
TO
%-ENGAGE
OR
TO
ACHIEVE
THE
%-POSTSECONDARY CREDENTIAL THAT
%-THEY'RE INTERESTED
IN.
%- >> BECAUSE IN THE
END, WHAT
%-HAPPENS WHEN
THEY'RE
IN
%-EDUCATION
DESERTS?
%- >> EDUCATION DESERTS HAVE A
%-CHILLING
EFFECT
ON
STUDENTS'
%-LIKELIHOOD
OF GOING TO
COLLEGE,%-BUT
ALSO
IMPORTANTLY, THEY'RE
%-LIKELIHOOD
OF COMPLETELY
%-COLLEGE.
%-NATIONALLY,
MOST
STUDENTS WHO
%-ARE ATTENDING
COLLEGE
ARE
DOING
%-SO
WITHIN
ABOUT
25
MILES OF
%-THEIR
HOMES.
%-IT'S
NOT
REALLY
THESE
DAYS
THE
%-TRADITIONAL
SENSE
OF
BEING
18%-AND GOING
OFF
TO
COLLEGE AND
%-LIVING ON
CAMPUS.
%-THESE
DAYS,
MOST COLLEGE
%-STUDENTS
ARE COMMUTING
AND A LOT
%-OF THEM
PARTICULARLY IN THE
%-TWO-YEAR
SPACE ARE
ATTENDING
%-PART-TIME,
AND
TODAY'S
COLLEGE
%-STUDENT IS
MUCH
OLDER
THAN
THE
%-TRADITIONAL
CONCEPTION.
%-THOSE FOLKS ARE
NOT GOING TO
%-PICK UP AND
LEAVE.
%-THEN
HAVE
FAMILIES
AND
JOBS
AND
%-RESPONSIBILITIES, NOR DO THEY
%-WANT TO
LEAVE.
%-OFTENTIMES WE HEAR
THAT
OUR
%-RURAL FOLKS WANT
TO
STAY
WHERE%-THEY
ARE,
CONTRIBUTE TO
THE
%-LOCAL
COMMUNITY,
AND
HAVING
%-WORKFORCE TRAINING
OR
A
COLLEGE%-DEGREE
CAN
HELP THEM
DO
THAT IN%-A
MEANINGFUL WAY
IF
THEY'RE
ABLE
%-TO
ACCESS
IT.
%- >> SO
THE
UW GREEN
BAY
TWO-YEAR
%-BRANCH IN
MARINETTE
IS
GOING
%-MOSTLY
ON-LINE.
%-DOESN'T
THAT
STILL
AFFORD
ACCESS
%-TO
RURAL
STUDENTS?
%- >> THERE ARE
MANY
RURAL
STUDENTS
%-FOR
WHOM
ON-LINE
ACCESS IS GOING%-TO BE
ENOUGH.
%-AND
WHEN
WE THINK
ABOUT
OUR
%-STUDENTS WHO
ARE
COMING OUT OF%-HIGH
SCHOOL,
HAVE
GOOD
ACCESS,
%-HAVE GOOD
KNOWLEDGE OF
THE
%-INTERNET, YES, THAT CAN
BE A
%-GOOD
OPTION
FOR
THEM.
%-HOWEVER, THERE ARE
GOING TO
BE A%-LOT OF
FOLKS THAT
ARE
NOT
GOING%-TO BE
ABLE
TO
TAKE
THAT
UP.
%-OFTENTIMES THAT'S
OLDER
FOLKS
OR
%-PEOPLE WHO ARE
LIVING
IN
VERY
%-REMOTE
AND
RURAL
FRINGE
%-LOCATIONS WHERE
THEY
SIMPLY
%-DON'T
HAVE
RELIABLE
BROADBAND
%-OR,
IN SOME
PLACES, DON'T
HAVE
%-INTERNET
ACCESS AT
ALL.%-THERE ARE STILL
PARTS OF THE
%-COUNTRY
WITHOUT
RELIABLE
%-INTERNET
ACCESS
AND MANY OF
THE
%-ON-LINE COURSE
OFFERINGS
ARE%-GOING TO
REQUIRE A
HIGH-SPEED
%-CONNECTION OR
THE
ABILITY
TO
%-DOWNLOAD DOCUMENTS
THAT JUST
IS%-OUT OF REACH
FOR
PEOPLE WHO
ARE
%-LIVING
REALLY OFF
THE
GRID.
%- >> SO WHAT ABOUT THE
FACT
THAT%-FOR
THE
CAMPUSES THAT
ARE
%-REALIGNING
OR
EVEN
CLOSING,
THE
%-PROBLEM
IS
REALLY
LOW
%-ENROLLMENT, WHICH
MAKES
%-MAINTAINING THE
WHOLE KIND
OF
%-CAMPUS
INFRASTRUCTURE
UNTENABLE.
%-DOESN'T IT
MAKE
SENSE
TO
%-BASICALLY
DOWNSIZE FOR THE
%-UNIVERSITY SYSTEM?
%- >> IT
MAY
MAKE
SENSE
IF
THERE'S
%-NOT
A
WILLINGNESS
TO
INVEST
IN
%-SUPPORTING
THOSE
CAMPUSES AT
THE
%-STATE
LEVEL,
YES,
IT CAN
BE
AN
%-UNTENABLE SITUATION WHEN YOU%-LOOK AT THE BOTTOM
LINE AND
THE
%-BUDGETS.%-THAT IS
ULTIMATELY
A
%-PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION WE HAVE
%-TO
GRAPPLE
WITH.
%-RIGHT?
%-ARE WE
WILLING
TO
FUND
PLACES%-THAT WE
ARE
GOING TO
BE
SEEING
%-BUDGETS REALLY
STRUGGLING
TO
%-MAKE
ENDS
MEET
GIVEN
THE
%-REDUCTION
IN
STUDENTS AT THE
%-COST
OF
POTENTIALLY SOME
OF
%-THOSE
STUDENTS
ARE GOING
TO
%-STRUGGLE
WITH OR
BE
UNABLE
TO
%-COMPLETE
A
COLLEGE
DEGREE,
IF
%-THAT
LOCATION
IS
CLOSED.
%- >> SO
A
RECENT
PAPER FROM
THE
%-FEDERAL
RESERVE
DISCUSSED
HOW
%-EMPLOYMENT AND
MANUFACTURING IN
%-THE
AGRICULTURAL
SECTORS
HAS
%-DECREASED IN
WISCONSIN OVER THE
%-PAST 10
YEARS.%-WHERE DOES
THAT
LEAVE
PEOPLE
WHO
%-HAVEN'T
UPSKILLED FOR A
CHANGED
%-ECONOMY, ESPECIALLY IN
RURAL
%-PARTS OF
OUR
STATE?
%- >> YEAH.%-IT IS
AN
ENORMOUS
CHALLENGE.%-IT'S A
GREAT
QUESTION.
%-WE SEE
THIS
IN A LOT
OF
PLACES%-ACROSS THE
COUNTRY,
WHERE
%-NATURAL
RESOURCES,
ECONOMIES
OR
%-AGRICULTURAL
ECONOMIES
ARE
%-CHANGING AND WE ALSO
KNOW THAT%-IT IS
HARDER
THAN
EVER
FOR
AN
%-AGRICULTURAL
WORKERS
AND
FAMILY
%-FARMS
TO
MAKE
ENDS
MEET.%-AT THE SAME TIME, THERE IS
AN
%-ADDITIONAL
TECHNOLOGICAL
%-COMPONENT TO MANY
OF
THOSE
JOBS
%-THAT COULD BE
GREATLY
BENEFITED
%-FROM
SOME
ADDITIONAL
WORKFORCE
%-TRAINING
OR
TECHNOLOGICAL
%-TRAINING.%-SO LEAVING
FOLKS
IN
THOSE
AREAS
%-WITHOUT ACCESS
TO
THAT
TRAINING
%-CAN MAKE
IT
REALLY
DIFFICULT
FOR
%-THEM TO
COMPETE IN
A
CHANGING
%-ECONOMY.%-THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE
FOR
%-THOSE
FOLKS AND
THOSE
%-COMMUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE WANT
TO
%-STAY WHERE THEY
ARE.
%-RIGHT?%-THERE'S
ALWAYS
THE OPTION, OF
%-COURSE, TO MOVE
TO A
BIG
CITY,
%-BUT
THAT JUST
CONTINUES
TO
%-HOLLOW
OUR
RURAL
TOWNS
AND
%-COUNTIES
OUT.
%-SO IF WE
WANT
TO KEEP
THE
%-SUSTAINABLE ECONOMY IN
THESE
%-PLACES,
WE NEED
TO
FIGURE
OUT
%-HOW WE
CAN
SUPPORT
FOLKS TO BE
%-ABLE TO
AFFORD
AND
COMPLETELY
%-UP-SKILLING, WHETHER
THAT'S
A
%-TRADITIONAL COLLEGE DEGREE OR
A
%-TRADE CERTIFICATE OR
WORKFORCE
%-TRAINING.%- >> ALL RIGHT.%-WE LEAVE IT
THERE.%-ALYSSA
RATLEDGE,
THANKS VERY
%-MUCH.%- >> THANK
YOU.
%- >> FOR
MORE ON
THIS AND
OTHER
%-ISSUES
FACING
WISCONSIN, VISIT
%-OUR
WEBSITE
AT
PBSWISCONSIN.ORG
%-AND
THEN
CLICK ON
THE
NEWS
TAB.
%-THAT'S OUR
PROGRAM
FOR
TONIGHT.
%-I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.%-HAVE A
GOOD
WEEKEND.
%- >> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS%-PROVIDED BY THE FOCUS FUND FOR%-JOURNALISM AND FRIENDS OF PBS%-WISCONSI
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