%- >>
THE
FOLLOWING
PROGRAM
IS
A
%- "HERE & NOW" 2022
ELECTION
%- SPECIAL.%->> THE
CAMPAIGN
COMMERCIALS ADD
%- FUEL TO THE
FIRE.
%- THE
STATE'S
SMOLDERING BRAIN
%- DRAIN
INTENSIFIES AND KEEPING
%- WARM THIS
WINTER
WILL
COME
AT
A
%- STEEP
COST.
%- GOOD EVENING,
I'M
ZAC
SCHULTS.
%- A
REPORT ON THE RACE
FOR
%- U.S. SENATE
AND
THE
IMPACT
OF
%- PAROLE
BECOMING POLITICAL AND
%- THE
EXODUS OF
YOUNG
PEOPLE MEANS
%- FOR
THE
STATE'S
ECONOMY
AND
HOW
%- TO SAVE
ON
ENERGY
COSTS
WITH
%- EFFICIENCY
PLANNING.%- IT'S "HERE & NOW" FOR SEPTEMBER %-30.
%- >>
FUNDING
IS
PROVIDED
BY
THE
%- FOCUS
FUND
FOR
JOURNALISM
AND
%- FRIENDS OF PBS WISCONSIN.
%- >> THE
RACE
FOR
A
SEAT
IN THE %- U.S.
SENATE
BETWEEN
INCUMBENT %- RON
JOHNSON AND
CHALLENGER
%- MENDELA BARNES MAY
DECIDE WHO
%- CONTROLS THE
CHAMBER.%- WE
HAVE THIS
REPORT ON
THE
%- CONTEST BETWEEN THE
SENIOR
%- CENTER
AND
THE STATE'S %- LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
%- >> THE
COST
OF
EVERYTHING
IS
UP.
%- NUMEROUS POLLS SHOW
INFLATION
IS
%- THE NUMBER
ONE
CONCERN
AMONG
%- VOTERS.%->>
DO NOT
BELIEVE THE
LIES.
%- >>
POLITICAL
CANDIDATES
%- INCLUDING RON
JOHNSON
AND
%- MENDELA BARNES WANT
WIS VIS
--
%- ISCONSIN
VOTERS TO
KNOW
THEY'RE
%- LISTENING.
%- >>
ACROSS
THE
STATE
PEOPLE
ARE
%- CONCERNED
WITH
RISING
COSTS.
%- >> BARNES IS
CURRENTLY
SERVING %- AS
THE
STATE LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR
%- AND
THEY HAVE
DIFFERENT PLANS
%- FOR
ADDRESSING
INFLATION.%- SENATOR JOHNSON
SAID
THE
%- GOVERNMENT IS HIGH
GOVERNMENT
%- SPENDING.%->> STOP
SPENDING
SO MUCH
MONEY.
%- INFLATION IS EASY
TO
UNDERSTAND %- OF UNDERSTAND WHAT
CAUSES
IT.
%- IT'S
MASSIVE
DEBT AND
SPENDING
%- AND
WE
HAVE
TOO
MANY
DOLLARS %- CHASING TOO
FEW
GOODS.
%- >>
TARGETED
TAX
CHANGES ARE
%- NEEDED.
%- >>
WE NEED A MIDDLE-CLASS TAX
%- CUT AND
WE
CAN
MAKE SURE
THE
%- WEALTH
AMONG
US
PAY
THEIR
FAIR
%- SHARE.%-THAT'S HOW WE
GET
TO
A
PLACE
%- WHERE
FAMILIES CAN
HAVE
ECONOMIC
%- SECURITY.%->>
ELEANOR
POWELL SAID
THE
PAIN
%- MIGHT
MOTIVATE
THOSE
WHO
DON'T
%- NORMALLY
VOTE.
%- >> BETWEEN
THE
PANDEMIC,
ECONOMY
%- AND
INFLATION, A LOT PEOPLE
ARE
%- HURTING AND
IT
CAN
BRING
OUT
%- MORE
DISCONTENTED
VOTERS.
%- >> Reporter:
THERE'S
ANOTHER %- ISSUE THAT IS
HIGHLY
MOTIVATING
%- IN THE
CONTEST
BETWEEN
BARNES
%- AND JOHNSON AND
THAT'S
ABORTION.%- >> WOMEN
AND
YOUNGER
VOTERS
ARE
%- UPSET
BY
THE
OVERTURNING
OF ROE
%- VS. WADE AND
POLITICIAN POLITICS%- IN
WISCONSIN
WE
HAD
A
PRE
%- EXISTING BAN
ON
THE
BOOKS.
%- THIS
MOBILIZED A LOT OF
MERGE!$!ENERGY %- AND
IT'S
ANGER
AND
MOBILIZATION.%- >> Reporter: BARNES IS
CALLING
%- FOR A
NEW
FEDERAL LAW
ALLOWING
%- ACCESS TO
ABORTION.
%- TO
ACHIEVE
THIS HE
WANTS
TO END
%- THE
FILIBUSTER
IN THE CENTER.
%- FILIBUSTER IS A
TACTIC USED
TO
%- PREVENT
A
BILL FOR
PASSING BY
%- STALLING
IT
WITH
PROLONGED
%- DEBATE.
%- >>
WE NEED
TO
END
THE
FILIBUSTER%- TO
CODIFY
IT
INTO
LAW
ONCE
AND
%- FOR ALL
AND
WE CAN
DO
THIS
IF WE
%- FLIP
WISCONSIN
AND
ADD
ONE
MORE
%- SEAT TO THE
50/50
QUOTE,
UNQUOTE
%- MAJORITY.%->> Reporter: JOHNSON WHO
OPPOSES
%- ABORTION
EXCEPT FOR
CASES
OF
%- RAPE AND
IF
THE
MOTHER'S
LAW
IS
%- AT
STAKE, SAID STATES
SHOULD
USE
%- REFERENDUMS.%->>
HERE'S
THE
QUESTION,
OF
THE
%- PROFOUND MORAL
ISSUE,
AT WHAT %- POINT
DOES
SOCIETY
HAVE
THE
%- RESPONSIBILITY
TO SAVE
A
LIVE %- AND
BALANCE THE
RIGHTS OF A %- WOMAN
VERSUS THE
UNBORN
CHILD.
%- >> Reporter:
WISCONSIN LAW
DOES %- NOT
CURRENTLY
ALLOW
DIRECT
%- REFERENDUMS.
%- >> THE
SPEAKS WELL
TRUMP WING
OF%- THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
%- LIEUTENANT GOVERN
BARNES
AND
%- REPRESENTS A
NEW
GENERATION
IN
%- AMERICAN
POLITICS.
%- HE'S
TRYING
TO SPEAK
TO
YOUNGER
%- VOTERS,
VOTERS
OF
COLOR,
VOTERS
%- WHO
OFTEN
FEEL
THEIR
INTERESTS %- AREN'T
BEING WELL
REPRESENTED IN
%- WASHINGTON.%->> Reporter: BARNES
AND
JOHNSON
%- TOOK VERY
DIFFERENT PATHS INTO
%- POLITICS.
%- MENDELA BARNES
WAS
BORN
AND
%- RAISED IN
MILWAUKEE AND
PROUD
OF
%- HIS
WORKING-CLASS ROOTS.
%- >> MOM
WAS
A
TEACHER
AND
MY
DAD
%- WORKED
A
SHIRT.
%- >> Reporter:
AFTER
WORKING IN %- COMMUNITY
ORGANIZING HE
RAN
FOR
%- OFFICE
SEAT AND
AFTER TWO
HE
RAN
%- UNSUCCESSFULLY FOR THE
STATE %- SENATE IN
2016
BEFORE
WINNING
%- ELECTION
AS
LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR
%- WITH
TONY
EVERS.
%- IN
HIS
RUN
FOR
U.S. SENATE
%- BARNES SAID
HIS GOAL
IS
TO
HELP
%- MIDDLE-CLASS
AMERICANS.%- >> TIMES
ARE GETTING
TOUGHER FOR
%- PEOPLE.%-THINGS ARE MORE
DIFFICULT.%- IT'S
HARDER
AND
HARDER TO
GET
%- AHEAD,
ACCESS
TO
MIDDLE CLASS IS
%- DENYING
MANY
PEOPLE.
%- >> Reporter: AND
RON
JOHNSON WHO
%- LIVES IN
OSHKOSH
IS
EQUALLY
AS
%- PROUD OF
HIS
WORKING-CLASS
%- BACKGROUND.
%- >>
WE
SHOVELLED
PATHWAYS.
%- >> Reporter: AND HE
MEET
RUSS
%- FINEGOLD
AND
IN THE
SENATE,
%- JOHNSON
SERVED ON
HOMELAND
%- SECURITY AND BUDGET
COMMITTEES.%- YOU SAID YOU
WOULD ONLY
RUN
FOR %- TWO
TERMS,
JANUARY YOU
DECIDED %- YOU'D RUN
AGAIN.%- WHAT MADE YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND?
%- >>
OUR
NATION'S
COMING A
PART.
%- TRUST
ME, IT
WAS
MY
PREFERENCE %- AND
MY
WIFE'S VERY
STRONG %- PREFERENCE TO
SERVE OUT
THE
%- SECOND TERM
AND
RETURN
TO
A
%- PRIVATE LIFE.
%- I THINK
I'M
IN
A
POSITION WHERE
%- I'VE
HAD
SUCCESS
AS
A
%- U.S.
SENATOR AND
HELPED
IMPROVE
%- THINGS.%->> Reporter: WHILE
BOTH
ARE
%- TRYING TO
STAY ON
MESSAGE, %- JOHNSON AND BARNES
HAVE
PLENTY %- OF CRITICISM FOR
EACH
OTHER.
%- >> HE'S
A
RADICAL
LEFTIST.%- HE'S TRYING TO
HIDE
THAT
FROM
%- WISCONSIN
ITS.
%- >> Reporter: THIS IS ABOUT
AN %- OUT
OF
TOUCH
POLITICIAN WHO
%- FAILED TO
DELIVER
FOR
WISCONSIN
%- AND PUT
HIMSELF AHEAD OF ALL
OF
%- US EVERY
CHANCE.
%- >> Reporter: THE
CANDIDATES %- AREN'T THE
ONLY ONES GETTING IN %- THE MUD
SLINGING.
%- OUTSIDE
GROUPS ARE
RUNNING
THEIR
%- OWN
ADS.
%- >> RON
JOHNSON USED
HIS
OFFICE %- TO
SCOOP
UP
MILLIONS
AND
MENDELA
%- BARNES
SUPPORTS
--
%- >> Reporter:
PEOPLE SHOULD BE
%- WARY.
%- >>
POLITICAL ADS
ARE
AN
EXEMPT
%- CATEGORY WHERE PEOPLE CAN
SAY
%- WHAT
THEY
WANT
AND
THERE'S
NO
%- OBLIGATION FOR
ANYTHING
TO BE
%- FACTUAL.%-BUYERS AND
VIEWERS SHOULD BE
%- AWARE JUST
BECAUSE
IT'S
ON
TV
%- DOESN'T MEAN
IT'S
TRUE.
%- >>
WE KNEW
THE
OTHER
SIDE
WOULD
%- MAKE UP LIVES
ABOUT
THE
TO
SCARE
%- YOU.
%- YOU'VE SEEN THE
ADS
ATTACKING
%- ME, THEY'RE
ALL
LIES.
%- >> Reporter: STILL BOTH
%- CANDIDATES HAVE
THEIR
%- CONTROVERSIES.%-JOHNSON HAS
COME UNDER
FIRE FOR
%- SPREADING
MISINFORMATION ABOUT %- COVID-19
AND
THE
PLAN
TO
GIVE
%- THEN-VICE PRESIDENT A
MAKE
PENCE
%- OF
FAKE SLATE
OF
PRESIDENTIAL
%- ELECTEDER
!$!!%- ELECTEDER!$!!E$!%-EELECTED
!$!!E$!%- EELECTED
PEOPLE AND THERE'S TWO
%- INDEPENDENT
SENATORS.
%- GIVEN
THE
SPLIT,
WISCONSIN
%- ELECTION
IS
KEY.
%- >>
CONTROL
OF THE
SENATE
HINGES
%- ON OUR
RAZOR THIN
MAJORITY.
%- WE
HAVE
THE
POTENTIAL TO
%- DETERMINE
WHO
CONTROLS THE
%- SENATE.
%- WISCONSIN
MAY
BE THE
BALL GAME
%- HERE.%-IF
YOU
CARE
ABOUT THE
OUTCOME
OF
%- THE
RACE YOU
SHOULD SHOW
UP
ON
%- ELECTION
DAY.
%- WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S
GOING
TO
%- HAPPEN.
%- >> Reporter: FOR
"HERE & NOW"
%- I'M
STEVEN
POTTER.
%- >> Zac:
REPUBLICANS
ARE TRYING
%- TO
MAKE
CRIME
A
BIG
ISSUE
THIS
%- FALL.%-TIM
MICHELS
RECEIVED
A
PANTS ON
%- FIRE
FOR
MISREPRESENTING A %- RECORD
ON
PAROLES AND
PARDONS %- BUT
HASN'T
STOPPED
IT
FROM
%- APPEARING IN
CAMPAIGN
ADS.
%- >>
WHAT PEOPLE
NEED
TO
KNOW IS
%- THAT
A
WHOLE
BUNCH
OF
FOLKS
ARE
%- MANDTORIAL
RELEASED FROM
PRISON.
%- THE
PAROLE COMMISSION
HAS
NO
%- RIGHT TO CHANGE
THAT.
%- THEY
REACH A
DATE
AND
THEY'RE %- LET
GO.
%- DO I
THINK
THERE
SHOULD
BE
SOME
%- CHANGES OVER
TIME?
%- ABSOLUTELY, THINK
WE SHOULD
LOOK
%- AT
THAT.
%- >>
FOR
MORE
WE
TURN
TO
JEROME
%- DILLARD OF
EX-INCARCERATED %- PEOPLE
ORGANIZING.%- AN
ORGANIZATION THAT
WORKS
TO
%- REFORM THE PENAL
SYSTEM.%- THANKS FOR
YOUR
TIME,
TODAY.
%- >>
MY
PLEASURE,
ZAC.
%- >> Zac:
WHAT'S
THE
ISSUE
WHEN
%- THIS GETS
POLITICIZED?%- >>
IT'S
THE
TOUGH
ON CRIME
%- RHETORIC
THAT
WORKED WELL
IN THE
%- '90s
AND
SURPRISED TO
SEE
IT
%- RAISED AT
THIS
POINT IN
TIME
BUT%- THE FACTS AREN'T THERE.
%- AND
OFTEN
TIMES
OUTRIGHT
LIES
%- ARE BEING
SAID
HOW
OUR
PAROLE
%- SYSTEM WORKS AND
ALL
THESE
%- VIOLENT
CRIMINALS.%- THE SCARE TACTICS
I
KNOW
FOR
A
%- FACT THAT THE
PAROLE
%- COMMISSIONER AND
GOVERNOR
EVERS
%- AND
ANY
OTHER
GOVERNOR
ARE
%- FOLLOWING
THE
LAW.
%- IT IS
LAW
THAT
WHEN A
PERSON
IS
%- SENTENCED
22
YEARS
AGO, OVER
22
%- YEARS,
A
JUDGE
HAD
IN
MIND
WHAT
%- THE
SENTENCE SHOULD
LOOK
LIKE
%- AND KNEW
THEY
SHOULD
BE
ELIGIBLE%- FOR
PAROLE
AFTER
25%
AND
GOOD
%- INSTITUTIONAL ADJUSTMENT
AND
%- DOING THEIR
PROGRAMMING THAT
%- MADE
THEM
MORE
SUSCEPTIBLE TO BE
%- IN
PAROLE.
%- THE FACT
OF THE
MATTER IS
NOT
%- ONLY
IS
THAT
PAROLE
BUT
THERE'S
%- MANDATORY RELEASE
DATES
ATTACHED
%- TO
THOSE
SENTENCES
SO
A
JUDGE
%- COULD BE 80
YEARS.
%- I KNOW THAT
20
YEARS,
I
WOULD
BE
%- ELIGIBLE IF
I
BEHAVED
MYSELF
AND
%- AT
75%
THAT'S
MANDATORY
RELEASE %- DATE FOR
ME.
%- >> WHAT'S THE
IMPACT ON
PEOPLE
%- WHO ARE
TRYING
TO
RE-ENTER
INTO
%- SOCIETY AND TRYING TO
START
OVER
%- WHEN THEY HEAR
MESSAGES
LIKE
%- THIS?
%- >> YOU
KNOW,
I
HEAR
THEIR
%- STORIES.
%- LAST YEAR
WE
HAD
A
BANQUET
WITH
%- MANY
OR
OLD
LAW,
THAT'S %- WHAT
WE
REFERRED
TO,
OLD-LAW
%- PAROLEES AND
IF
YOU
DO
THE
AND
%- IF
LOOK
INTO
THE
RECIDIVISM %- RATES OF
THOSE
WHO
WERE
RELEASED
%- ON
PAROLE
UNDER THE
%- ADMINISTRATION ARE JUST
GOING TO
%- STICK
TO THE LAST FOUR
YEARS.
%- NONE
HAVE BEEN
RE-INCARCEATED
%- FOR A
VIOLENT
CRIME AND
TAKING %- CARE
OF
THEIR
FAMILIES AND A
%- KNOW FROM
TALKING TO
MANY
%- INDIVIDUALS.
%- MANY I
MET
AS
YOUNG
MEN
IN
%- MAXIMUM
SECURITY
PRISONS
WHO
%- STRIVE HARD
TO
CHANGE
THEIR
%- LIVES
AND THEY
THOUGHT
ABOUT THE
%- ENVIRONMENT THEY COME
FROM
AND
%- SOME
OF
THE
THINGS
THEY'VE
DONE.
%- THEY'VE
REPENTED
AND
REALLY
%- ADJUSTED
REAL
WELL
IN
%- CORRECTIONS AND
ONCE
THEY'RE %- BACK
IN THE
STREETS,
THEY'RE
%- THRIVING
ONCE
THEY'RE
BACK,
%- THEY'RE
THRIVING IN
OUR
%- COMMUNITY.%->> Zac: WHAT WOULD YOU
LIKE
TO
%- SEE DONE
TO
CHANGE
EVEN
THE
WAY
%- PAROLES ARE
HANDLED OR
THE
WAY
%- THE
PUBLIC
UNDERSTANDS THEM
OR
%- THE WAY
THE
WHOLE SYSTEM
WORKS?
%- >>
I
THINK
THE
PUBLIC
NEEDS
TO %- BE
EDUCATED
ON HOW PAROLE WORKS.
%- DEF
%- >> I
THINK
GIVING THE
STORY
OF
%- THE VOICE
OF
THOSE WHO
HAVE BEEN
%- PAROLED 40
YEARS
AGO,
10
YEARS %- AGO
AND
WHERE
THEY
ARE
NOW
WOULD
%- SHED MORE LIGHT ON TO
PEOPLE
%- CHANGE AND
DESERVE
A
SECOND
%- CHANCE.%-I
KNOW
I
DID.
%- >> Zac: THE
ISSUE
OF
HOW TO MAKE
%- REFORMS
WITHIN
THE
SYSTEM %- BECOMES
POLITICIZED AND
WHAT
IS
%- SAID WILL
GO
TO THE
NEXT
%- SESSION.
%- >> THERE'S
MANY
COLLATERAL
%- CONSEQUENCES
TO HAVING
A
%- CONVICTION RECORD.
%- A LOT OF
WHAT WE'RE
SPEAKING ON
%- ARE SOME
OF THE
COLLATERAL
S
%- LIKE
THE
RIGHT TO
VOTE,
AS LONG %- AS
YOU'RE ON
SUPERVISION YOU %- CAN'T CAST A
BALLOT
IN
THIS
%- STATE.
%- IN THE
MIDWEST
WE'RE ONE OF %- THOSE
THAT STILL KEEP THE
%- POLICIES
IN
PLACE
YOU HAVE
TO
%- COMPLETELY
FULFILL YOUR
SENTENCE%- BEFORE YOU CAN CAST
THE
BALLOT.%- THE FACT
OF THE
MATTER
IS,
OUR
%- TERMS
OF
SUPERVISION,
WE'RE
THE
%- THIRD
HIGHEST AS LONG AS
HOW
%- LONG
SOMEONE IS
ON
SUPERVISION
%- AND SOME ARE
IN
SUPERVISION 20 %- YEARS
AND
TWO OF
MY
STAFF
%- MEMBERS
WOULD
NOT
BE
ABLE TO
%- VOTE
UNTIL
2042,
2044.
%- YET, STILL THEY'VE
BEEN
IN THE
%- COMMUNITY
WORKING
FOR
A
COUPLE
%- YEARS
NOW
PAYING TAXES BUT STILL
%- NOT
FEELING
THEY'RE PART OF %- AMERICA, PERIOD.
%- >> Zac: FOR
SOMEONE BEING
%- RELEASED
TODAY,
THEY'RE
COMING
%- INTO AN
ENVIRONMENT WITH
%- EXTREMELY
LOW
UNEMPLOYMENT
BUT
%- HOUSING
SHORTAGES
AND
HIGH
%- INFLATION.%-SO WHAT
IS IT
LIKE?
%- WHAT'S THE
ENVIRONMENT
THEY'RE
%- COMING
INTO?%- >>
YOU'RE
RIGHT.
%- GETTING
A
JOB
NOW
IS
-- A
FEW
%- YEARS
AGO
THAT
WAS
ONE
OF THE %- MAIN
BARRIERS WAS FINDING %- EMPLOYMENT.
%- AND
TODAY
HOUSING
IS
A
HUGE
%- ISSUE.
%- THAT'S
WHY
SO
MANY
NONPROFITS
%- NOW ARE
LOOKING
AT
HOW
WE
CAN %- HELP THEM BY HOUSING THEM.
%- YOU
CAN
HAVE A
JOB
BUT
IF YOU
%- DON'T HAVE
STABLE LIVING
HOW
ARE%- YOU TO
MAINTAIN
A
JOB?
%- HOW ARE YOU
TO
MAINTAIN
YOUR
%- HYGIENE AND BE
SHARP
WHEN YOU GO%- TO WORK
IF YOU CAN'T
GET
A
GOOD
%- NIGHT'S
SLEEP?%- IF YOU'RE SLEEPING
ON A
PARK %- BENCH
OR
IN A
SHELTER
IT
MAKES %- IT
COMPLICATED.%- >> Zac:
YOU'RE
GROUP
HAS BEEN
%- AROUND SINCE
2014.
%- WE HAVE A
FEW
SECONDS
LEFT.
%- DESCRIBE THE
BIGGEST
PROGRESS
%- YOU'VE SEEN IN THE ISSUES ON
%- THIS TIME?
%- >> I
HAVE SEEN SOME
PROGRESS
AN
%- I HAVE TO SAY THIS
%- ADMINISTRATION
AND
THE %- DEPARTMENT
OF
CORRECTIONS
HAVE %- MADE
SOME
ADJUSTMENTS
THAT THEY
%- COULD,
THAT'S
WITHIN
THEIR
%- BOUNDARIES OR FULFILLING
WHAT %- THEY
COULD LIKE
EXTENDING THE
%- RELEASE.
%- THEY
SAID THEY'RE
RELEASING %- DANGEROUS
CRIMINALS, THE
%- PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION
RELEASED%- MORE
THAN
THIS ADMINISTRATION %- HAS
BUT
YET
THERE
WAS
NOTHING
%- SAID
BECAUSE MANY
OF THOSE
HAD
%- MET
THEIR
MANDATORY
RELEASE
%- DATE.
%- I FEEL OUR
PAROLE
COMMISSIONER %- DID A
GREAT
JOB.
%- WE CAN
LOOK
AT
HIS
RECIDIVISM
%- RATES AND THOSE
WHO
WERE
PAROLED
%- IN THE
LAST
FOUR
YEARS
AND
%- THERE'S
--
IT'S
AMAZING.
%- IT'S
REMARKABLE HOW LOW
IT
IS.
%- >> Zac: WE'LL HAVE
TO
LEAVE IT
%- THERE.
%- THAT'S
ALL
THE
TIME.%- JEROME
DILLARD
THANK YOU FOR
THE
%- TIME.%->> I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ME.
%- >> Zac: A
NEW
REPORT
SAYS
%- WISCONSIN'S
WORKFORCE IS
%- EXPECTED
TO
DWINDLE IN THE
NEXT
%- DECADE WITHOUT
AN INCREASE
IN
%- OUTSIDE MIGRATION
BY
2030
THE
%- WORKING AGE
POPULATION WILL
%- SHRINK BY
AN
ESTIMATED
130,000
%- UNLESS
WE FIND
A
WAY
TO
KEEP
%- YOUNG PEOPLE FROM LEAVING
OR
%- CONVINCING TO HAVE
FAMILIES HERE
%- AND THERE'S
AN
ORGANIZATION
PART
%- OF THE
WISCONSIN COUNTY
%- ASSOCIATION.%-THANKS FOR YOUR
TIME
TODAY.
%- >> GOOD
TO BE
HERE.
%- >>
YOU
USE
CENSUS
DATA TO
TRACK
%- THE
INFLOW
AND
OUTFLOW
FROM
%- WISCONSIN AND
THE
BABY BOOMERS %- AGE
INTO
RETIREMENT WE HAVE
A
%- MAJOR
SHORTAGE.
%- >>
THE
FIRST
BABY
BOOM
RETIRED %- AND THAT
HAD
AN
EFFECT.
%- THE SECOND HALF IS
NOW
AGING
%- INTO THAT
AND
THEY'RE
ABOUT
20%
%- BIGGER
SO
THAT IS
GOING
TO
--
%- AND WE
DON'T
HAVE
REALLY ENOUGH
%- YOUNG PEOPLE
COMING
UP
BEHIND
%- THEM TO
REPLACE
THEM.
%- SO
THE
SOLUTION --
THE
ONLY
%- SOLUTION
IF WE
DON'T
WANT
TO
SEE
%- THAT BIG
DECLINE IS
MIGRATION
%- FROM OTHER STATES OR OTHER %-COUNTRIES.
%- >> Zac: SO
THE
LACK
OR
ABSENCE %- OF
WORKERS WILL BE
FELT
MORE
%- SEVERELY
IN
CERTAIN
AREAS
OR %- SPREAD ACROSS THE
WHOLE
ECONOMY?
%- >> IT WILL
BE
SPREAD ACROSS THE
%- WHOLE
ECONOMY.
%- WE'LL SEE IT
EVERYWHERE.
%- PROBABLY
YOU'LL SEE
A
BIGGER
%- IMPACT IN
NORTHERN
WISCONSIN.
%- THE POPULATION
TENDS
TO BE
OLDER
%- AS IT IS
AND
FEWER
YOUNG
PEOPLE %- SO IT WILL BE
A LITTLE
MORE
%- ACUTE
THERE BUT
WE'LL SEE
IT
%- EVERYWHERE.%->>
YOUR
REPORT TALKS
A LOT ABOUT
%- YOUNG PEOPLE AND
ANYONE WHO
GREW
%- UP IN
WISCONSIN AND
WENT TO
%- COLLEGE SAW THIS
HAPPEN
AND
YOU
%- GO TO
WISCONSIN
AND
EXPLORE THE
%- WORLD AND
SOME COME BACK HOME TO
%- RAISE
A
FAMILY.
%- HOW DO YOU
ENCOURAGE
THAT?
%- IS
THAT A
STATE
SOLUTION OR
%- BUSINESS
OR
EMPLOYER
SOLUTION?
%- >>
IT'S
A
PUBLIC-PRIVATE
WORKING
%- TOGETHER SOLUTION.
%- ONE,
WE
NEED
TO
TRY
TO
LIMIT
THE
%- NUMBER
OF
YOUNG
PEOPLE THAT
%- WE'RE
LOSING.
%- WE'RE GOING TO
LOSE
A
%- SIGNIFICANT NUMBER,
AS
YOU
SAID,
%- THEY
WANT
TO
GET
OUT
THERE.
%- BUT ONE OF THE
THINGS WE
FIND
IS
%- WHEN
YOU
LOOK
AT AVERAGE
WAGES
%- FOR
WHITE
COLLAR
EDUCATION AND
%- COLLEGE
GRADUATE
OCCUPATIONS
%- THEY'RE GOING
INTO WE
TEND
TO BE
%- 10%
TO
15%
BELOW
THE
NATIONAL
%- AVERAGE
IN
TERMS OF THE
BUSINESS%- SECTOR THEY HAVE
TO
UNDERSTAND
%- THAT
AND
IF
THEY
WANT
TO
KEEP
%- THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE
HERE,
THEY
%- HAVE TO
MAKE SURE
THEY'RE
%- COMPETITIVE.
%- AND
I
THINK
THERE'S
A
ROLL FOR
%- THE
STATE
AS
WELL.
%- WE SEE
STATES,
COUNTIES ACROSS %- THE
COUNTRY
PROVIDING
INCENTIVES%- FOR
PEOPLE TO
MOVE TO
THEIR
%- STATES.%-MAINE
HAS BEEN A LEADER IN THIS.
%- WE'RE
NOT
SURE
EXACTLY
HOW
IT
%- LOOKS BUT
THERE ARE
WAYS
THAT
WE
%- CAN
INNOCENT
--
GIVE
INCENTIVE %- TO
MOVE
BACK HERE.
%- >>
%- >> THE
PLACES
YOU TALK
ABOUT
%- PEOPLE
MOVING
TO
ARE
HAVING
%- NATURAL
DISASTERS.
%- HOW
CAN
CLIMATE
CHANGE
BE MORE %- DESIRABLE
TO
EVERYONE
NOT
JUST
%- NATIVES?
%- >>
THERE'S
INCREASE
DISCUSSION %- AROUND
THE
NOTION
THAT
OVER TIME
%- WISCONSIN, WITH ALL
ITS
WATER
%- RESOURCES, IS
GOING
TO
LOOK
MORE
%- AND MORE
DESIRABLE FOR
%- INDIVIDUALS AND
FOR
BUSINESSES.
%- SO
THAT
MAY
PLAY
A
ROLE
IN THE
%- NEAR TERM
NOT
SO
MUCH.
%- IT'S MORE
OF A
LONGER-TERM
%- PATTERN WE END
UP
SEEING.
%- >> Zac: WHAT SHOULD WE
DO
TO BE
%- PREPARED.
%- SHOULD THE
STATE DO
MORE
AT
THIS
%- TIME OR
MAKING EVERYONE
AWARE
OF%- THE
SOLUTION?
%- LET'S TALK ABOUT
IT.
%- >>
I
THINK
THE
SOLUTION
TO
OUR
%- CHALLENGE IS
REALLY
TARGETING %- WHAT
I
CALL
THE
FAMILY
%- FORMATION.%-THAT'S WHAT
WE'VE
ALWAYS BEEN
%- STRONG IN IN TERMS
OF
MIGRATION.%- IT'S DESIGNING
INCENTIVES
FOR
%- THAT AGE
GROUP
TO
MOVE
HERE.
%- AND I
THINK
IT'S
ALSO --
THERE'S%- AN
EDUCATION COMPONENT TO
THIS
%- THAT IF
YOU
GO
OUTSIDE
THE
%- MIDWEST, PEOPLE
KNOW
VERY LITTLE
%- ABOUT
WISCONSIN
EXCEPT THAT
IT'S
%- COLD
AND
WE
HAVE CHEESE
AND
THE
%- PACKERS AND
THAT'S ABOUT
IT.
%- SO PART
OF
IT
IS
EDUCATING THEM
%- ON THE
QUALITY
OF
LIFE
AND
THE
%- GREAT
SCHOOLS
WE
HAVE
AND
%- RELATIVELY LOW
CRIME.
%- ALL THOSE THINGS THAT
FAMILIES
%- ARE
LOOKING
FOR
BECAUSE ONCE
%- THEY
KNOW
ABOUT
IT
AND
ONCE
YOU
%- GET THEM
HERE, MOST
OF THEM
%- STAY.%-SO I
THINK
THAT'S THE
ROLE THAT
%- I
THINK
THE STATE
CAN
PLAY.
%- >> Zac: AND
THOSE OF
US
STILL %- SAY WE
DON'T
NEED
MORE
PEOPLE.%- WE LIKE
THE
SPACE
WE
HAVE.
%- THAT'S ALL
THE
TIME
WE
HAVE.
%- THANK YOU
FOR
YOUR
TIME.
%- >> THANK YOU
FOR
HAVING
ME.
%- >> %->> A LOT OF THE
FURNACES
TURNED %- ON THIS
WEEK AND
THE
COST
OF
%- KEEPING IT
RUNNING THIS
WINTER
%- S
EXPECTED TO MAKE
A BIG
JUMP.
%- THE
NATIONAL
ENERGY
ASSISTANCE
%- DIRECTOR'S
ASSOCIATION SAID
THE
%- AVERAGE
OF
HEAT
HOME
WILL
RISE
%- 17%
COMPARED TO
LAST
YEAR AND
%- WITH US IS
CHAD
LAIBLY.
%- THANK YOU FOR JOINING
US.
%- WHEN A
REPORT
LIKE
THIS
COMES
%- OUTS DO YOU SEE
AN
INCREASE.%- THE
NUMBER OF
PEOPLE
REALIZING
%- WINTER'S ABOUT DO
--
TO
COME?
%- >>
ESPECIALLY
WITH
THE
COLD
SNAP
%- WE SEE
!
$
!!%- WE SEE
INQUIRIES.%- >> Zac: WHAT DO YOU
TELL
THEM?
%- >>
PREPARE THE
HOUSE
FOR
WINTER.
%- GET A
SMART
THERMOSTAT.%- WE
HAVE
REBATES AND
LOOK
TO
%- INSULATE BECAUSE
IF
YOU
WAIT
THE
%- NEXT
TWO OR THREE
MONTHS
THE
%- SCHEDULE
PACKED
FOR
COMPANIES.
%- >> Zac:
HOW MUCH
MONEY
CAN
%- SOMEONE SAVE ON
ENERGY
COST
%- COMPARED
TO THE
COST
OF
%- WEATHERIZING?%-ARE THERE
TWO
SCALES?
%- >>
QUITE A
BIT.
%- A DEEP
RETROFIT
CAN
SAVE
UP
TO
%- 30%
WHICH
IS
QUITE
A
LOT.
%- DOING
A
MINOR
JOB
WITH
JUST
THE
%- ATTIC
MAY
SAVE
10%
AND
15%
AND
%- INSULATION TENDS
TO
PAY
FOR
%- ITSELF
WITHIN
SEVEN
YEARS,
GIVE
%- OR
TAKE
TWO OR THREE
YEARS.
%- >> Zac: WHAT
DO
WE KNOW ABOUT
%- THE
INTERNATIONAL
SUPPLY,
WE
%- HAVE RUSSIA
AND
UKRAINE AND
%- FIRES AND
HURRICANES.
%- >> IT'S
KEEPING THE
ENERGY
PRY
%- OF
PRICES
THAN
WE'D
EXPECT.
%- PROPANE HAS
RISEN
AND
PEOPLE'S
%- PROPANE
MAY
GO
UP
$30
OR
SO.
%- I'M
SEEING
MORE
THAN
THAT.
%- >> Zac:
OKAY.
%- NOW, AS MUCH AS
NO ONE
WANTS
TO %- PAY
MORE
FOR
ENERGY,
CAN
RISING
%- COSTS
INCENTIVIZE
PEOPLE
TO
%- ACTUALLY
DO
SOME
OF
THE
UPGRADES
%- BECAUSE THE PAY
BACK
IS
FASTER?
%- >>
ABSOLUTELY.
%- WE
GET
A LOT OF
INQUIRIES
%- ESPECIALLY NEXT YEAR
WITH THE
%- INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT
THERE'LL%- BE
OPPORTUNITIES
FOR
PEOPLE
TO %- SPEND
A LITTLE
MORE
THAN
THEY
%- NORMALLY WOULD
EVEN
WHEN
THEY
%- HAVE LESS
BECAUSE THE
SAVINGS
%- ARE GOING
TO BE
THERE.%- >> Zac:
SO WITH
THE
INFLATION
%- REDUCTION ACT AS
PART
OF
CLIMATE
%- CHANGE AND GREEN
ISSUES IN
%- THERE, DO
WE KNOW YET
WHAT'S
%- GOING TO BE
COMING.
%- IS THAT
STILL
BEING
FINALIZED?
%- >> WE'RE
SHIFTING THROUGH
THE
%- INFORMATION AND SEEING
HOW
THAT
%- MONEY WILL
FLOW
PRACTICALLY BUT
%- EXPECTING THERE
TO BE
GOOD
%- OPPORTUNITIES
PARTICULARLY
WITH
%- DUAL-FUEL HEAT
PUMPS.
%- THOSE
ARE
BASICALLY AN
AIR
%- CONDITIONER THAT
ACTS
IN
REVERSE%- AND THE
TECHNOLOGY
WASN'T THERE
%- AT A
GOOD PRICE
POINT
FOR THE
%- COLD
CLIMATE IN
WISCONSIN,
%- NEGATIVE 20 IS THE
SWEET SPOT
%- YOU WANT THEM
TO
WORK TO
AND
NOW
%- THEY DO
AND
THAT'S
A
GOOD
OPTION
%- BECAUSE
THERE'S
MONEY
FOR
%- RESIDENTIAL
HOME
OWNERS FOR
THAT
%- KIND
OF
TECHNOLOGY.
%- >> Zac: WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT
HOME
%- OWNERS BUT PEOPLE
LIVE IN
%- APARTMENTS.%-ARE
THERE THINGS
THEY CAN
DO?
%- >>
SAME
THING.
%- OUR
PROGRAM FOCUS ON
ENERGY
%- WORKS FOR
RENTERS
AS
WELL.
%- >> Zac: WHERE
SHOULD
THEY
GO
AND
%- LOOK
AT?
%- >>
THEY
SHOULD
LOOK AT
%- WWW.FOCUSONENERGY.%-OUR PROGRAM HAS BEEN
AROUND
20
%- YEARS AND
IT'S
WELL
MANAGED.%- THE
MONEY
DOESN'T RUN
OUT
%- BECAUSE IT'S SO
WELL
MANAGED.
%- IT'S A
GREAT
OPPORTUNITY.%- >> Zac:
I'VE SEEN
SOME
FORECASTS
%- WHETHER YOU
BELIEVE
IN THE
%- FARMER'S
ALMANAC
OR WANT
TO
GO
%- WITH THE
NATIONAL
WEATHER
--
%- >> I
LOOKED AT
MINE THE
OTHER
%- DAY.
%- >> Zac: IT
SAYS THERE'S
A
HIGHER
%- PERCENTAGE
CHANCE
WE COULD
HAVE %- A
COLDER
AND
WETTER
WINTER THAN
%- AVERAGE.
%- IT ADDS
ON
TO
ENERGY
COSTS,
%- RIGHT?
%- >>
IT
DOES.
%- THE
BOTTOM LINE IS
THEY'LL BE
%- FOR HEATING YOUR
HOME
WHETHER %- IT'S A
COOLED
WINTER
OR NOT
AND
%- HEATING
COSTS
ARE
ON THE RISE
SO
%- IT'S SOMETHING
TO BE
AWARE OF
%- NOW BECAUSE THE
INSULATION %- COMPANIES
ARE
GOING
TO BE
REALLY
%- BUSY MOVING
FORWARD.
%- ALSO, IF
YOU'VE
CALLED
AN
HCAC
%- COMPANY
BECAUSE
OF THE
DUAL-FUEL
%- HEAT
PUMPS
AND
THE
RISE
OF
COSTS%- OF GETTING
MACHINES
TUNED
UP
%- THEY'RE
BUSY.
%- YOU HAVE TO BE
PATIENT.%- >> Zac: CHAD LAIBLY
WITH FOCUS %- ON
ENERGY.
%- >> THANK YOU.
%- >> Zac: FOR
MORE ON
THIS AND %- OTHER
ISSUES
FACING
WISCONSIN
%- VISIT
OUR
WEBSITE
AT
%- PBSWISCONSIN.org AND JOIN
US
%- NEXT FRIDAY AT
7:00
P.M.
FOR
THE
%- U.S.
SENATE
DEBATE
FOLLOWED BY
%- LIVE "HERE & NOW"
ANALYSIS.%- THAT'S OUR
PROGRAM
FOR
TONIGHT.%- I'M ZAC
SCHULTS.%- HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.%-